Hi Tim,

That's what I find so intriguing.  I wasn't seeing any reports on the list 
about this change of behaviour and yet on my macbook pro May 2014 it happens.  
As you say: when I access the menu extra with vo+mm shortcut combination, I 
have to use vo+arrow keys and vo+spacebar to activate an individual menu item.  
But when I press control+f8, all I hear is "application", and I appear to be 
stuck.  Adding fn key doesn't work because I have that option changed in the 
system preferences menu to use fn key only access additional functions of the 
fn keys.  I've tried it anyway but nothing happened.  It's not a deal breaker 
but I do miss the control+f8.  Control+f3 for dock activation still works thank 
goodness.

If you can think of anything that I might have misconfigured, please let me 
know.

Thanks

Andrew
> On 26 Oct 2016, at 14:32, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> That still works for me, although I need to hold down the FN key as well as 
> the ctrl key to access the Extras menu in that way.  There appears to be two 
> different reactions when using the Extras menu.  If you use the VO-m-m to 
> invoke the Extras menu, then VO keys are required to move between menus and 
> VO-space is required to open a menu.  When using the ctrl-f8 method, then 
> arrow keys alone seem to work.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 02:04, Andrew Lamanche <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Could anyone confirm this?  Prior to OS Sierra, I used to invoke menu extra 
> with control+f8 key combination.  Once there, I could use arrow keys to move 
> from menu item to menu item and then up and down arrows to open the submenus. 
>  After installing OS Sierra, invoking menu extra with control+f8 doesn't 
> always work and if it does, I have to use vo+arrow keys to move from item to 
> item.  Does anyone else experience this?  Is this a deliberate change from 
> Apple?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andrew
> 
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