We were always told that there were strict laws about automated dialing processes engaging cell phones. this is not a function of the do not call list or the laws associated with that. You’re right about political calls being omitted but this is a different legal area do to the cost factors in receiving unwanted calls and being billed for them.
Remember up until recently, cell phones were not unlimited. The user would be charged for incoming calls so as a result we weren’t allowed to call cell phone numbers, full stop, because of the fact it charged the phone user. So on that basis I’m absolutely certain there were moratoriums on anyone calling cell phones with out permission whether that’s political speech or not. The first amendment doesn’t apply when the target is injured as a result or in this case charged. This may have changed now that unlimited calling is the norm but as I understand it you must omit the calling of cell phones directly with automated dialers. Janina is very versed in communication law maybe she can speak to this subject. > On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote: > > What do you mean, "you're not supposed to" get calls from pollsters on your > mobile phone? I doubt there is a law that says that, at least not in the > USA. Congress has set up do-not-call lists but they don't apply to political > speech. That would be a violation of the First Amendment.I really doubt there > is anything illegal about a pollster calling mobile phones. Maybe at one time > they didn't do it out of politeness but something like that is not > sustainable. These pollsters aren't doing this for fun, after all. Once one > of them starts calling mobile phones, the others would have to go along in > order to keep up. > > > On 11/10/2016 09:39 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> You’re not supposed to, that’s very interesting. I’ve rolled out dialers >> before and you’re supposed to prevent dialing blocks of DIDs assigned to >> cell carriers. >> >>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I get calls from pollsters all the time on my cell phone. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/10/2016 07:59 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>> You knew the signs were out there, it was a Brexit type event all over >>>> again. If you listened to the elite media and ruling class there was no >>>> way, if you listened to the actual people you knew it was going to happen. >>>> >>>> Polling is dead. There’s a technological and believe it or not on topic >>>> reason for it as well. Apple and Google have us all cutting the cord and >>>> living with cell phones now. Pollsters can’t call cell phones. The fewer >>>> hard lines there are left out there the fewer people to sample. >>>> >>>>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Most people I know are still in a state of shock. I didn't think this >>>>> would happen in a million years. 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