Hi Donna,

Which OS version are you using on the MBP?

I use it on my MBA mid 2013.

I have to start VO up at log in as it doesn't speak by default any more,
 It talks at this point in a very basic vo voice..

I get the username field and enter my username and hit enter this gives me the 
password prompt which I put in and then hit enter,
And things log in,

And after a couple of seconds I et the full desktop and the full VO system 
working and talking as required.

As for brightness,
 I'm not sure but I can't change the volume on the log in screen I believe due 
to things not having loaded at that point.

The reason I ask which OS version is because you have to enable or request file 
volt to be setup on your harddrive 
It's not something that normally starts it's installation by itself

Hope this helps.


Simon F


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2017 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: File Vault Nightmare

Hi, all,

So, unbeknownst to me, it seems that FileVault is activated by default on the 
new MBPs.

This morning I shut my computer off by force quit, because I couldn't get it to 
shut down normally.  When I got home from work, I tried to restart it.  
Apparently FileVault was activated.

I always keep the screen dimmed to save battery power. So, I entered my 
username, and got absolutely no feedback as to whether it had been entered, 
much less whether it was entered correctly.  Then I entered my password.  I got 
the error that my login was incorrect.  I know my password, I was able to 
successfully enter it on my old MBA.  But repeated tries yielded the same error.

After a few tries, I lost VO altogether.  Unfortunately, I keep the screen 
dimmed, to save battery power.  So at  one point in this saga, I found myself 
without VO, and without the ability to brighten the screen, so I could get 
sighted assistance.  Eventually, my husband put on two pairs of reading 
glasses, so he could read what was on the screen.  The only way out of my 
problem seemed to be to deactivate FileVault.

What was especially frustrating was the lack of VO support, and the lack of 
ability to navigate the screen.  For example, I had no way to determine that my 
username had been entered correctly. my husband eventually saw that there were 
options like "Forgot Password" "keyboard not working" and so on,  I never saw 
any of that.  Also, I was completely unable to adjust output.  I could not 
brighten the screen, so my husband could see it.  I could not turn VO on or 
off.  I was really wondering at one point whether I was locked out of my MBP 
permanently.  I don't ever want to go through this again!

So I know that some of you actually like FileVault.  How the **** do you log in?
TIA,
Donna

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