Ok,

Now I’m really stumped,

You sure it isnt’ getting to the point of a full reimage of the machine to 
start from scratch?

Something is playing big games with this machine

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, 2 October 2017 7:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: File Vault Nightmare

I did. :)
Cheers,
Donna
On Oct 2, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Simon Fogarty 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

HI Donna,

If file volt is activated, why not go in and disable it?

It’s easy enough to turn off


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Monday, 2 October 2017 1:47 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: File Vault Nightmare

Donna,

How frustrating. I have heard there are other options on the screen during the 
file vault login process but you were the first to give some of the details. I 
wonder if it is possible at that prompt to use your AppleID credentials or what 
exactly happens when you use the recover password fields. It would be curious 
to try my AppleID credentials in any case to see if my local Keychain gets 
unlocked.

One other thing I have noticed that might have added to your frustration, it 
seems that the computer turns itself off when in file vault password prompt if 
you do nothing for a period of time. Since it only takes a second for the File 
Vault to prompt this makes some sense but might have been why your system 
seemed to be completely quiet.

                                Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Sep 29, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Donna Goodin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Did.  Didn't work.
Donna
On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Try ctrl power button as that is the key press to bring up shutdown.



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017 12:13 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: File Vault Nightmare

Hi John,

Re shutting down, I've never had to use the menu item, so had forgotten about 
it being there.  No, I do not get a shut down message when holding down the 
power button, and the CMD-Ctrl-Option-Fn-Power does not seem to accomplish 
anything here.

Re FileVault, when you type your username, can you tell what you are typing?  
In the password field, I could hear the little clicks that indicate that 
characters are being entered.  But I heard nothing in the username field.  And 
it was strange. I would type in my username, then tab to go to password, but 
would be prompted again for username.  I would type my username a second time, 
and then I could go to the password field.  I'd like to use FileVault, but am 
now leery of ending up locked out of my Mac.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 27, 2017, at 8:51 PM, John Panarese 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

  Even with FileVault, you can turn on VoiceOver and get speech feedback for 
the prompts. You should first enter your account and hit enter. Then, type your 
password and hit enter.

    As for turning off the MBP, provided you have a touch bar, you can hold the 
power button for a second and you should get the authentication window to 
shutdown. Also, it's on the Apple menu as well. I believe if you press the FN 
key with the control-option-command and power button, that should turn it off 
too. I'll have to check that on my MBP.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:42 PM, Donna Goodin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi, all,

So, unbeknownst to me, it seems that FileVault is activated by default on the 
new MBPs.

This morning I shut my computer off by force quit, because I couldn't get it to 
shut down normally.  When I got home from work, I tried to restart it.  
Apparently FileVault was activated.

I always keep the screen dimmed to save battery power. So, I entered my 
username, and got absolutely no feedback as to whether it had been entered, 
much less whether it was entered correctly.  Then I entered my password.  I got 
the error that my login was incorrect.  I know my password, I was able to 
successfully enter it on my old MBA.  But repeated tries yielded the same error.

After a few tries, I lost VO altogether.  Unfortunately, I keep the screen 
dimmed, to save battery power.  So at  one point in this saga, I found myself 
without VO, and without the ability to brighten the screen, so I could get 
sighted assistance.  Eventually, my husband put on two pairs of reading 
glasses, so he could read what was on the screen.  The only way out of my 
problem seemed to be to deactivate FileVault.

What was especially frustrating was the lack of VO support, and the lack of 
ability to navigate the screen.  For example, I had no way to determine that my 
username had been entered correctly. my husband eventually saw that there were 
options like "Forgot Password" "keyboard not working" and so on,  I never saw 
any of that.  Also, I was completely unable to adjust output.  I could not 
brighten the screen, so my husband could see it.  I could not turn VO on or 
off.  I was really wondering at one point whether I was locked out of my MBP 
permanently.  I don't ever want to go through this again!

So I know that some of you actually like FileVault.  How the **** do you log in?
TIA,
Donna

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