It is also bank and cost specific. I have one card which requires a pin when 
the amount is over $80, and another card from a different bank which requires a 
pin at $100. Both are on Apple Pay.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
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> On 6 Mar 2018, at 12:19, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> In my experience, this is location-specific. Ideally, no, you don't need to 
> enter a PIN. But places still require it, such as Best Buy where I live. No 
> one can tell me why, but I gather it's something to do with policy, or maybe 
> the payment terminals in use. It's a pain, considering what NFC payments are 
> supposed to let you do, but it seems to be up to the business to choose 
> whether they require a PIN. Some, sadly, decide to.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2018, at 20:25, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>>   Thanks. Well I wonder if its bank specific. I entered all that 
>> information. I went into Wallet to see if there was something else but did 
>> not see where to edit the card details, but did not spend a lot of time 
>> looking.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 3/5/2018 3:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> Hi E T.
>>> You don't need to enter your debit card pin when you do Apple Pay.
>>> Did you set up your card details in Apple Pay to start with which you can 
>>> find in your Wallet as you need to add your CSV number and your long card 
>>> number if I remember rightly to get this going.  Once you enter those 
>>> details, then the server will varify your card and you will get a text from 
>>> your Bank thanking you for setting up Apple Pay and so on.
>>> Do check your wallet first before you use Apple Pay again on your I phone 8.
>>> Kawal.
>>>> On 5 Mar 2018, at 21:08, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   This worked for me today. Just curious that I still needed to enter the 
>>>> PIN for my debit card. If the terminal has no physical keypad, its no good 
>>>> anyway,
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/3/2018 6:09 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>>>> E.T.,
>>>>> Remember, if you have everything setup correctly, the only time you will 
>>>>> need to enter your phone's pass code is when you reboot the phone.
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 5:58 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>>>>> Alex,
>>>>>     Thanks. Remember, this is all new to me. I only just got Touch ID and 
>>>>> Apple Pay set up in the last couple days. Plus the passcode which until 
>>>>> now I never used. I will try this again on Monday.
>>>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>     ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>> On 3/3/2018 6:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>> In general, the process is simply:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home button
>>>>>> twice
>>>>>> * your default card will be selected, but you can choose a different
>>>>>> card if you have one
>>>>>> * hold the phone near the reader
>>>>>> * touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and just
>>>>>> leave your finger there while holding the phone to the reader
>>>>>> * after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and harder
>>>>>> than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone to the
>>>>>> reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch ID. The only
>>>>>> way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple Watch. I hope this
>>>>>> explains things some, and your next attempt goes more smoothly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>   I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not
>>>>>>> knowing yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the
>>>>>>> luxury of keeping the checker waiting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello E.T.,
>>>>>>>> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
>>>>>>>> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were
>>>>>>>> unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three different
>>>>>>>> terminals at three different businesses, on each of our phones.  I
>>>>>>>> have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
>>>>>>>> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  This
>>>>>>>> was the first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that I was not
>>>>>>>> able to complete a transaction, successfully.
>>>>>>>> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states away,
>>>>>>>> and he, too, was unsuccessful in completing a terminal-based Apple
>>>>>>>> Pay transaction.
>>>>>>>> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another try, say,
>>>>>>>> sometime after Monday.
>>>>>>>> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload my
>>>>>>>> Starbucks card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so did not
>>>>>>>> require a physical terminal, as did my previous attempts, earlier 
>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>> Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>>>>>>>>     With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What
>>>>>>>> settings, and easiest procedures works here? Thanks.
>>>>>>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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