Hell, that's crazy,

It probably costs more to put the pin in.
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Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2018 5:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID

    Sadly, even $5 requires a PIN. Bummer.

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On 3/5/2018 7:01 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
> It is also bank and cost specific. I have one card which requires a 
> pin when the amount is over $80, and another card from a different 
> bank which requires a pin at $100. Both are on Apple Pay.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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> On 6 Mar 2018, at 12:19, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>> In my experience, this is location-specific. Ideally, no, you don't 
>> need to enter a PIN. But places still require it, such as Best Buy 
>> where I live. No one can tell me why, but I gather it's something to 
>> do with policy, or maybe the payment terminals in use. It's a pain, 
>> considering what NFC payments are supposed to let you do, but it 
>> seems to be up to the business to choose whether they require a PIN. 
>> Some, sadly, decide to.
>>
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 5, 2018, at 20:25, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kawal,
>>>   Thanks. Well I wonder if its bank specific. I entered all that 
>>> information. I went into Wallet to see if there was something else 
>>> but did not see where to edit the card details, but did not spend a 
>>> lot of time looking.
>>>
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>>> On 3/5/2018 3:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>> Hi E T.
>>>> You don't need to enter your debit card pin when you do Apple Pay.
>>>> Did you set up your card details in Apple Pay to start with which 
>>>> you can find in your Wallet as you need to add your CSV number and 
>>>> your long card number if I remember rightly to get this going.  
>>>> Once you enter those details, then the server will varify your card 
>>>> and you will get a text from your Bank thanking you for setting up 
>>>> Apple Pay and so on.
>>>> Do check your wallet first before you use Apple Pay again on your I 
>>>> phone 8.
>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> On 5 Mar 2018, at 21:08, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   This worked for me today. Just curious that I still needed to 
>>>>> enter the PIN for my debit card. If the terminal has no physical 
>>>>> keypad, its no good anyway,
>>>>>
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>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
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>>>>> were true?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/3/2018 6:09 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>>>>> E.T.,
>>>>>> Remember, if you have everything setup correctly, the only time 
>>>>>> you will need to enter your phone's pass code is when you reboot 
>>>>>> the phone.
>>>>>> Mark
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>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 5:58 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Pay and Touch ID Alex,
>>>>>>     Thanks. Remember, this is all new to me. I only just got 
>>>>>> Touch ID and Apple Pay set up in the last couple days. Plus the 
>>>>>> passcode which until now I never used. I will try this again on Monday.
>>>>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
>>>>>> were true?
>>>>>> On 3/3/2018 6:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>> In general, the process is simply:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * from the lock screen or notifications center, press the home 
>>>>>>> button twice
>>>>>>> * your default card will be selected, but you can choose a 
>>>>>>> different card if you have one
>>>>>>> * hold the phone near the reader
>>>>>>> * touch the home button to authenticate, or do what I do and 
>>>>>>> just leave your finger there while holding the phone to the 
>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>> * after a moment, the phone vibrates and chimes, and you're done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really, stepping through it like that makes it sound longer and 
>>>>>>> harder than it is. Double press the home button, hold the phone 
>>>>>>> to the reader, and rest a finger on the home button for Touch 
>>>>>>> ID. The only way it gets easier is if you're using an Apple 
>>>>>>> Watch. I hope this explains things some, and your next attempt 
>>>>>>> goes more smoothly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2018, at 00:34, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>   I did not get that far. What I ran into was, simply put, not 
>>>>>>>> knowing yet how to make the transaction. And I did not have the 
>>>>>>>> luxury of keeping the checker waiting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I expected to use Touch ID but was prompted for the passcode.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
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>>>>>>>> were true?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/2/2018 9:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello E.T.,
>>>>>>>>> Your question is too broad in order to elicit a meaningful anser.
>>>>>>>>> However, I can tell you that today, both a friend and I were 
>>>>>>>>> unsuccessful in getting Apple Pay to work at three different 
>>>>>>>>> terminals at three different businesses, on each of our 
>>>>>>>>> phones.  I have an 8 Plus and she has a 7 Plus.
>>>>>>>>> We surmised that the system was down or working very slowly.  
>>>>>>>>> This was the first time, since Apple Pay was introduced, that 
>>>>>>>>> I was not able to complete a transaction, successfully.
>>>>>>>>> I called another friend of mine, who lives a couple of states 
>>>>>>>>> away, and he, too, was unsuccessful in completing a 
>>>>>>>>> terminal-based Apple Pay transaction.
>>>>>>>>> So, I suggest that you wait a few days and give it another 
>>>>>>>>> try, say, sometime after Monday.
>>>>>>>>> Just so you know, a few minutes ago, I did successfully reload 
>>>>>>>>> my Starbucks card, via Apple Pay.  Keep in mind that doing so 
>>>>>>>>> did not require a physical terminal, as did my previous 
>>>>>>>>> attempts, earlier today.
>>>>>>>>> Mark
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>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:24 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Apple Pay and Touch ID
>>>>>>>>>     With my 8+ I gave this a try today did not succeed. What 
>>>>>>>>> settings, and easiest procedures works here? Thanks.
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