Wow. I'm sorry for you.

I really think that people should be using the Mini to get a taste, not to get 
the absolute top of the line Mini as a permanent computer.

If anyone else is reading this that is considering a purchase, buy the least 
expensive Mini. Don't worry that it doesn't have enough of what-ever that you 
need. It will run OSX. It will let you have a good look around. When you're 
ready to sell it and get a full Mac, there is always a good market for used Mac 
Minis on places like Craig's List. The low end Minis don't really lose much 
value at all, so, you can buy a Mini, try it out, and resell it without hardly 
losing anything.

Actually, I'm surprised that Minis haven't popped up for sale on this list. 
There are always incoming switchers that are curious about trying Mac. I'd 
think that would be a good chance for some of the people, currently on Minis, 
that have decided to stay with Mac, to pass along their Mini to a new switcher, 
and buy a higher end machine.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini

Hi,

Now I understand what you and the other user are saying, when you leark for 
months before buying your mac mini and you read time and time again that yes it 
works without a monitor, yes it works without a monitor and yes it works 
without a monitor, it is frustrating when you buy it because you don't need the 
monitor only to find out that oh, I guess you do need a monitor.

It wasn't a real issue for me until I upgraded to snow leopard, then browsing 
the net was all but useless.
I ended up having to buy a mini to vga adaptor and connect a 15 inch flat panel 
monitor to it.  The monitor isn't even on neither is it plugged into 
electricity.

Truthfully If I knew I needed a monitor connected when I bought my mini I 
wouldn't have bought it and would've got an iMac or MacBook instead.
I didn't get the $500 mini either, I got the $800 mini.



On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:02:52 -0400
Bryan Smart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Its fine to experiment with round pegs and square holes, also. But, if things 
> don't work out, that is an obstacle for you to overcome or forget about. 
> Round pegs weren't designed to work in square holes, and the people that make 
> either won't have a lot of sympathy that you aren't using their products as 
> intended.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:02 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I think people are confusing portable with mobile.  It is a small difference 
> but a difference none the less between the 2.  The mac mini is a portable 
> desktop.  It was not meant to be moved from room to room like a cordless 
> phone.  lol.  This Is why there is no battery.  You can move it easily enough 
> but really.  Its a stationary machine.  It not working without a monitor is 
> not a bug.  Who but blind people would even dream of using a computer with no 
> monitor.  What if there is a problem where you require sighted assistants?  
> Do you then scramble to get a monitor, or must they bring their own to the 
> party.  lol.  A macbook is a mobile computer.  Meant to go with you anywhere. 
>  Note the battery and keyboard built into the machine , with trackpad and 
> monitor.  I just kind a feel like some people are trying to put the round peg 
> in the square hole here.     
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Joe Plummer wrote:
> 
> > No, I dis agree with this. They made it small and portable just so 
> > you could move it around easily. Now for the monitor part you can 
> > get real small monitor like a 7 or 9 inch monitor to do what you 
> > want that is very portable and some even runs off a battery.
> > 
> > 
> > Sign,
> > JP ( Joe Plummer)
> > [email protected]
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:25 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: My Mac Mini
> > 
> > I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong.
> > 
> > The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of 
> > portable, then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not 
> > designed it to be a portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work 
> > like that, they won't care that you can't make it suit that purpose. 
> > Its also not intended to be a headless Mac for blind people.
> > 
> > The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations only.
> > 
> > 1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a cheap way to try it out.
> > 
> > 2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic tasks, such as 
> > being a home or small office server.
> > 
> > That's it.
> > 
> > If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its underpowered. It 
> > is powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower 
> > laptop hard drives.
> > 
> > If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is because it 
> > isn't a portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac.
> > 
> > If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is because it isn't 
> > designed to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini 
> > to use with their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if 
> > they'd like to really use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac 
> > with a PC keyboard and mouse means that you miss out on a lot, also.
> > Stil, it is a way to try this stuff to see if you'll like it, or if 
> > it will be a waste of money, without forcing you to pay a lot for the 
> > chance to try it out.
> > 
> > If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you probably won't 
> > stay with a Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow, 
> > the capacity won't go any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand 
> > very far, the processor is underpowered, so on and so on.
> > 
> > Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking around with what's 
> > possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini, you've 
> > become serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then 
> > it is time to sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a 
> > MacBook, an IMac, or a Mac Pro that will do more.
> > 
> > For example, if you're moving a computer from room to room to browse 
> > the web, then you really should be using a MacBook.
> > 
> > Bryan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > It makes it more convenient to move the mini from room to room 
> > within ones house.  Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400
> > Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I was just wondering why people find this so important?  Monitors 
> >> are very
> > cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs.  
> >> On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I myself have not reported but I might even though I own a macbook.
> >>> 
> >>> Take care.
> >>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Good evening,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Has this issue been reported to [email protected]?  Perhaps
> > there's nothing that they can do, but it might be worth sending a 
> > quick message.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Everett Zufelt
> >>>> http://zufelt.ca
> >>>> 
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> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had known that before I
> > purchased the mini, but, live and learn.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini without a monitor. 
> >>>>>> Everything
> > went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To say the 
> > least, it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web 
> > page at all. All I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a 
> > monitor, all the above problems went away. Even though I do not have 
> > the monitor powered up, it still works perfectly. So, just a warning 
> > to anyone buying a Mac Mini who intends to browse the web, forget it unless 
> > you have a monitor attached.
> >>>>>> Kind regards
> >>>>>> Martin
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