Bryan, I really think your selling the Mini entirely to short. Honestly, I know people who have purchased Minis and have found them to be very satisfactory. I really think it depends on what you want from the machine. For the stuff your doing, it is obvious a Mini would not meet your needs. However, for someone like my wife who currently has an iMac, would actually find a Mini to be more than satisfactory for her needs. Of course if we purchased a Mini, I would have to get her a monitor because she is sighted. That however isn't the point. I am merely saying that people really need to assess their needs today and project their needs in the future and use that as a basis for determining, which Mac will be best for them. I would love to have a Mac Pro, but I know that would be a waste of money and horsepower for what I am doing, but my Macbook Pro more than meets my needs. Just something to consider. On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> Wow. I'm sorry for you. > > I really think that people should be using the Mini to get a taste, not to > get the absolute top of the line Mini as a permanent computer. > > If anyone else is reading this that is considering a purchase, buy the least > expensive Mini. Don't worry that it doesn't have enough of what-ever that you > need. It will run OSX. It will let you have a good look around. When you're > ready to sell it and get a full Mac, there is always a good market for used > Mac Minis on places like Craig's List. The low end Minis don't really lose > much value at all, so, you can buy a Mini, try it out, and resell it without > hardly losing anything. > > Actually, I'm surprised that Minis haven't popped up for sale on this list. > There are always incoming switchers that are curious about trying Mac. I'd > think that would be a good chance for some of the people, currently on Minis, > that have decided to stay with Mac, to pass along their Mini to a new > switcher, and buy a higher end machine. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: My Mac Mini > > Hi, > > Now I understand what you and the other user are saying, when you leark for > months before buying your mac mini and you read time and time again that yes > it works without a monitor, yes it works without a monitor and yes it works > without a monitor, it is frustrating when you buy it because you don't need > the monitor only to find out that oh, I guess you do need a monitor. > > It wasn't a real issue for me until I upgraded to snow leopard, then browsing > the net was all but useless. > I ended up having to buy a mini to vga adaptor and connect a 15 inch flat > panel monitor to it. The monitor isn't even on neither is it plugged into > electricity. > > Truthfully If I knew I needed a monitor connected when I bought my mini I > wouldn't have bought it and would've got an iMac or MacBook instead. > I didn't get the $500 mini either, I got the $800 mini. > > > > On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:02:52 -0400 > Bryan Smart <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Its fine to experiment with round pegs and square holes, also. But, if >> things don't work out, that is an obstacle for you to overcome or forget >> about. Round pegs weren't designed to work in square holes, and the people >> that make either won't have a lot of sympathy that you aren't using their >> products as intended. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:02 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: My Mac Mini >> >> Hello, >> >> I think people are confusing portable with mobile. It is a small difference >> but a difference none the less between the 2. The mac mini is a portable >> desktop. It was not meant to be moved from room to room like a cordless >> phone. lol. This Is why there is no battery. You can move it easily >> enough but really. Its a stationary machine. It not working without a >> monitor is not a bug. Who but blind people would even dream of using a >> computer with no monitor. What if there is a problem where you require >> sighted assistants? Do you then scramble to get a monitor, or must they >> bring their own to the party. lol. A macbook is a mobile computer. Meant >> to go with you anywhere. Note the battery and keyboard built into the >> machine , with trackpad and monitor. I just kind a feel like some people >> are trying to put the round peg in the square hole here. >> On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Joe Plummer wrote: >> >>> No, I dis agree with this. They made it small and portable just so >>> you could move it around easily. Now for the monitor part you can >>> get real small monitor like a 7 or 9 inch monitor to do what you >>> want that is very portable and some even runs off a battery. >>> >>> >>> Sign, >>> JP ( Joe Plummer) >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart >>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:25 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: My Mac Mini >>> >>> I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong. >>> >>> The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of >>> portable, then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not >>> designed it to be a portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work >>> like that, they won't care that you can't make it suit that purpose. >>> Its also not intended to be a headless Mac for blind people. >>> >>> The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations only. >>> >>> 1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a cheap way to try it out. >>> >>> 2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic tasks, such as >>> being a home or small office server. >>> >>> That's it. >>> >>> If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its underpowered. It >>> is powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower >>> laptop hard drives. >>> >>> If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is because it >>> isn't a portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac. >>> >>> If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is because it isn't >>> designed to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini >>> to use with their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if >>> they'd like to really use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac >>> with a PC keyboard and mouse means that you miss out on a lot, also. >>> Stil, it is a way to try this stuff to see if you'll like it, or if >>> it will be a waste of money, without forcing you to pay a lot for the >>> chance to try it out. >>> >>> If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you probably won't >>> stay with a Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow, >>> the capacity won't go any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand >>> very far, the processor is underpowered, so on and so on. >>> >>> Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking around with what's >>> possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini, you've >>> become serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then >>> it is time to sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a >>> MacBook, an IMac, or a Mac Pro that will do more. >>> >>> For example, if you're moving a computer from room to room to browse >>> the web, then you really should be using a MacBook. >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G >>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: My Mac Mini >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> It makes it more convenient to move the mini from room to room >>> within ones house. Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400 >>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was just wondering why people find this so important? Monitors >>>> are very >>> cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs. >>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I myself have not reported but I might even though I own a macbook. >>>>> >>>>> Take care. >>>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good evening, >>>>>> >>>>>> Has this issue been reported to [email protected]? Perhaps >>> there's nothing that they can do, but it might be worth sending a >>> quick message. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Everett Zufelt >>>>>> http://zufelt.ca >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow me on Twitter >>>>>> http://twitter.com/ezufelt >>>>>> >>>>>> View my LinkedIn Profile >>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had known that before I >>> purchased the mini, but, live and learn. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini without a monitor. >>>>>>>> Everything >>> went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To say the >>> least, it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web >>> page at all. All I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a >>> monitor, all the above problems went away. Even though I do not have >>> the monitor powered up, it still works perfectly. So, just a warning >>> to anyone buying a Mac Mini who intends to browse the web, forget it unless >>> you have a monitor attached. >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chris G <[email protected]> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > Chris G <[email protected]> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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