Hi,

Just my thoughts, but I have a mac mini which I had in storage for some time now. I am going to bring it out here in a few days. Any how, I feeol that it meeting my needs for what I llike to do. I was going to ask a question, but will posted in another message. Any this only my thought on this hole topic. I am hoping I can eather find my addapter I bought some time ago or by another so I can connect my monitor to it.

Mattthew


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On 4/2/2010 11:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Bryan, I really think your selling the Mini entirely to short. Honestly, I know 
people who have purchased Minis and have found them to be very satisfactory. I 
really think it depends on what you want from the machine. For the stuff your 
doing, it is obvious a Mini would not meet your needs. However, for someone 
like my wife who currently has an iMac, would actually find a Mini to be more 
than satisfactory for her needs. Of course if we purchased a Mini, I would have 
to get her a monitor because she is sighted. That however isn't the point. I am 
merely saying that people really need to assess their needs today and project 
their needs in the future and use that as a basis for determining, which Mac 
will be best for them.
I would love to have a Mac Pro, but I know that would be a waste of money and 
horsepower for what I am doing, but my Macbook Pro more than meets my needs.
Just something to consider.
On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

Wow. I'm sorry for you.

I really think that people should be using the Mini to get a taste, not to get 
the absolute top of the line Mini as a permanent computer.

If anyone else is reading this that is considering a purchase, buy the least 
expensive Mini. Don't worry that it doesn't have enough of what-ever that you 
need. It will run OSX. It will let you have a good look around. When you're 
ready to sell it and get a full Mac, there is always a good market for used Mac 
Minis on places like Craig's List. The low end Minis don't really lose much 
value at all, so, you can buy a Mini, try it out, and resell it without hardly 
losing anything.

Actually, I'm surprised that Minis haven't popped up for sale on this list. 
There are always incoming switchers that are curious about trying Mac. I'd 
think that would be a good chance for some of the people, currently on Minis, 
that have decided to stay with Mac, to pass along their Mini to a new switcher, 
and buy a higher end machine.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini

Hi,

Now I understand what you and the other user are saying, when you leark for 
months before buying your mac mini and you read time and time again that yes it 
works without a monitor, yes it works without a monitor and yes it works 
without a monitor, it is frustrating when you buy it because you don't need the 
monitor only to find out that oh, I guess you do need a monitor.

It wasn't a real issue for me until I upgraded to snow leopard, then browsing 
the net was all but useless.
I ended up having to buy a mini to vga adaptor and connect a 15 inch flat panel 
monitor to it.  The monitor isn't even on neither is it plugged into 
electricity.

Truthfully If I knew I needed a monitor connected when I bought my mini I 
wouldn't have bought it and would've got an iMac or MacBook instead.
I didn't get the $500 mini either, I got the $800 mini.



On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:02:52 -0400
Bryan Smart<[email protected]>  wrote:

Its fine to experiment with round pegs and square holes, also. But, if things 
don't work out, that is an obstacle for you to overcome or forget about. Round 
pegs weren't designed to work in square holes, and the people that make either 
won't have a lot of sympathy that you aren't using their products as intended.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini

Hello,

I think people are confusing portable with mobile.  It is a small difference 
but a difference none the less between the 2.  The mac mini is a portable 
desktop.  It was not meant to be moved from room to room like a cordless phone. 
 lol.  This Is why there is no battery.  You can move it easily enough but 
really.  Its a stationary machine.  It not working without a monitor is not a 
bug.  Who but blind people would even dream of using a computer with no 
monitor.  What if there is a problem where you require sighted assistants?  Do 
you then scramble to get a monitor, or must they bring their own to the party.  
lol.  A macbook is a mobile computer.  Meant to go with you anywhere.  Note the 
battery and keyboard built into the machine , with trackpad and monitor.  I 
just kind a feel like some people are trying to put the round peg in the square 
hole here.
On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Joe Plummer wrote:

No, I dis agree with this. They made it small and portable just so
you could move it around easily. Now for the monitor part you can
get real small monitor like a 7 or 9 inch monitor to do what you
want that is very portable and some even runs off a battery.


Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: My Mac Mini

I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong.

The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of
portable, then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not
designed it to be a portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work
like that, they won't care that you can't make it suit that purpose.
Its also not intended to be a headless Mac for blind people.

The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations only.

1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a cheap way to try it out.

2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic tasks, such as
being a home or small office server.

That's it.

If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its underpowered. It
is powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower
laptop hard drives.

If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is because it
isn't a portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac.

If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is because it isn't
designed to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini
to use with their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if
they'd like to really use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac
with a PC keyboard and mouse means that you miss out on a lot, also.
Stil, it is a way to try this stuff to see if you'll like it, or if
it will be a waste of money, without forcing you to pay a lot for the chance to 
try it out.

If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you probably won't
stay with a Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow,
the capacity won't go any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand
very far, the processor is underpowered, so on and so on.

Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking around with what's
possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini, you've
become serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then
it is time to sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a
MacBook, an IMac, or a Mac Pro that will do more.

For example, if you're moving a computer from room to room to browse
the web, then you really should be using a MacBook.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini

Hi,

It makes it more convenient to move the mini from room to room
within ones house.  Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web.

Chris



On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400
Ricardo Walker<[email protected]>  wrote:

Hi,

I was just wondering why people find this so important?  Monitors
are very
cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs.
On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

I myself have not reported but I might even though I own a macbook.

Take care.
On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:

Good evening,

Has this issue been reported to [email protected]?  Perhaps
there's nothing that they can do, but it might be worth sending a
quick message.

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On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote:

Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had known that before I
purchased the mini, but, live and learn.

On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote:

Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini without a monitor.
Everything
went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To say the
least, it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web
page at all. All I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a
monitor, all the above problems went away. Even though I do not have
the monitor powered up, it still works perfectly. So, just a warning
to anyone buying a Mac Mini who intends to browse the web, forget it unless you 
have a monitor attached.
Kind regards
Martin

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