You miss the point.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution
inevitable."
-John F. Kennedy
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On 6/15/2026 11:12 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Hi there, I think you mean the quick nap OK I might try that and see
and those are just my comments. I didn’t really mean to turn this into
an argument or a thing because it’s not enough thing that really would
affect the thing other than it is the opposite of not demotivating,
how are you today? You know the fact that it’s like that but anyways,
thanks for everybody’s help.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 1:18 PM E.T. <[email protected]> wrote:
Turn Voiceover off and just use the standard builtin keyboard
commands. End of problem.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable."
-John F. Kennedy
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On 6/15/2026 8:09 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Hi friends.
> Hamiht here.
> Well unless it's not counted much Windows does have Narator.
>
> But to the meat and potatos and rice now.
>
> First sorry if my messages haven't made much sence.
> I was using dictation.
> So one last time as Ariana Grande says I'll try and be concise and
> precise .
> The interacting can be anoying and frustrating coming from
Windows and
> especially JAWS where either enter or space alone do things.
>
> You don't have to hold a buntch of keys like the whole VO right and
> left or VO up & down. Yess I just dropped a Venga Boys song there.
> So there is that.
>
> However, and this is where I feel dictation messes up.
>
> What has made it to where I don't use the mack much is well 1
simplicity.
> Those kinda things too much interacting too much you cna't just tab
> use the arrows space or enter you have to interact with tables
and so
> on. Then 2 and 2 is the thing that is really making me want to say
> uncle and box the thing back up.
> Operibility.
>
> The menus dissapeear. The whole thing of having to re-start VO.
Oh and
> Male is not responding or Safari is not responding because you
went to
> your third YouTube Channel and wana go back to channel 1.
> Like uncle.
> This is how I was almost about to blow 20 hundred on a Studio?
>
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> *From:* 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2026 9:32 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> <[email protected]>; Krishnakant Mane
<[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Mac OS software latest update
> Remember that Windows has no built in screen reader, that
Jaws and
> NVDA are add-ons.
>
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
> revolution inevitable."
> -John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> [email protected]
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>
> On 6/14/2026 10:15 PM, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> > Why Windows, even Orca on Ubuntu does all this stuff and
really, for
> those who have such complex requirements, I agree Mac is a no
starter.
> > For a person like me who is an entrepreneur needing performance,
> travel work comfort and durable hardware quality, Mac does fine,
not
> excellent mind blowing but good enough. And yes for a few really
> amazing stuff like security which is by the way much better than
> windows and the sheer performance during multiple tasking and
> smoothness in performance a MacBook is lite years ahead of
Windows and
> Linux. It is ironically accessibility which lags behind as
compared
> to other OSs.
> > Regards.
> >
> >> On 13 Jun 2026, at 2:22 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, you can use Firefox on Windows hit F9 and there go the
ads.
> Works pretty well. And I can use complicated PDFs there,
something I
> cannot do on a Mac. I wish I could. I want desperately to dump
> windows. I need to buy a new PC. But if I can’t use complicated
PDFs
> and navigate them, the Mac is a no starter. So I guess it’s all
about
> what you need access to maybe.
> >> Mary
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 1:45 PM, Herbie Allen
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hmm, the ability to use a Mac Browser that has reader mode vs
> trying the same site on a Windows and having to go through adds.
Yeah,
> I think the Mac still wins on accessibility.
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 12:32, 'Andrew' via MacVisionaries
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The fundamental question is though whether we should have
to find
> work arounds a problem Accessibility at Apple has created? When I
> open a browser on Windows, I have no such issues, whereas I
> increasingly have issues on my mac? At which point do I say
enough is
> enough!
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On 12 Jun 2026, at 16:05, Herbie Allen
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>> When you get the image thing, simply Toggle Reader mode on
and
> off with Command Shift R.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 08:03, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On my PC, if I click on a link, Chrome opens to the page in
> question, not the toolbar. I could probably live with the toolbar
> behavior if it weren’t combined with the Image thing.
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Donna
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 9:57 AM, 'Jason J.G. White' via
> MacVisionaries <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 'Bradford Snyder' via MacVisionaries
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> When opening Safari, I have mine set to open to an empty
> page, with focus on the address edit field, which is of course
in the
> Toolbar.
> >>>>>>>> Since this is expected behavior, I have never
considered this
> a bug.
> >>>>>>> I agree. Browsers on my Linux system do exactly the
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> least by default.
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