thank you very very much. this is wonderful.
I especially liked the context menu trick.
best,
Mohammed.
On 2/8/2011 11:08 PM, Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. wrote:
Hello Mohamed,
I am also pretty much a beginner with the mac, even after owning mine for 5
months.
Here are a couple of things I've learned which may be of some help:
First off, when in finder you can view the contents of your computer with
Command-Shift-C.
View applications with control-shift-A.
View documents with Control-Shift-o.
View home with Control-Shift-H.
This is all available from the go menu in finder.
To expand a folder you'd press Command-down arrow.
To collapse a folder press Command-up arrow.
I just now realized you can also expand and collapse folders with the right and
left arrow keys as you did in Windows, and prefer this method.
Once you find a file you wish to open, use command o to open it.
Here is how you can use folder naviagation commands to find your ring tones
folder for iTunes:
1. Press Command-Shift-C for computer.
2. Down arrow till you hear "users" and press right arrow.
3. Download to your computer user name, and expand with right arrow.
I am not sure how your specific folder name will display in this step, but for
me it is my first and last name.
4. Down arrow to "music" and again expand this folder.
5. Now down to your specific iTunes "library name" folder and expand.
I named mine Antonio's Library, so this is the folder name for me.
6. Down arrow to iTunes media, then expand the folder.
7. Download and expand the "ring tones" folder.
It is necessary to expand the folder to reveal the files contained here.
Pressing tab to view files will not work as it does in windows.
The folder may be empty if you have no added ring tones since purchasing your
phone.
If you have ring tone-ready files, you would paste them into this folder we
just navigated to.
Creating ring tones is another animal altogether, but just know that ring tones
should be in the correct format, .m4r.
It will be handy to know you can bring up a context menu of sorts when you
press Control-Option-Shift-m. This works well when you want to know what you
can do with a file, skype contact, and so on.
I hope this is helpful and accurate coming from a newbe.
Antonio Guimaraes
On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Mohammed Al-shara wrote:
Hi Colin!
thanks alot for your answers, that's exactly what I was looking for. about the
applications, I successfully browsed them, but is there another place that
shows my applications? asking because I didn't see things like the terminal in
there. also, how do I browse my disks and there contents? something like my
computer in windows? I also heard that there were other utilities like a
partition utility, didn't see it.
and finally for now, is there something like a context menu in the mac? if not,
how do you operate on a file, like open it / zip it / see its properties, etc,
etc?
thanks again for the very complete answer that you sent already.
best,
Mohammed Al-shara.
On 2/8/2011 6:11 PM, Colin M wrote:
Hi Mohammed!
A quick way to open applications is to use the command [command+shift+a ]
That will put you in the app's!
For the navigation of web you can turn quick nav on by pressing the left and
right arrows down at the same time [vo will say either quick nav on or off]
Other methods include opening the web rota with the command [vo+u ] and in
there you can move from left to right or right to left through headings, links,
visited links,form controls, frames and others!
Then when your on something you want like headers you can down arrow to get to
what you want!
Or if you know what your heading your looking for just type the first few
letters and the list of headers will narrow down!
Or links or form controls which ever your on!
So you get to your header in the list just press vo+space and it will put you
right there!
And if it is a link you want to open just vo+space again!
You can also open Item chooser with the command [ vo+i ] and down arrow through
items there as well that option will or should also show you things like the
close button and other stuff!
So I hope this is of some help to you!
Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
On 8 Feb 2011, at 15:02, Mohammed Al-shara wrote:
hi group.
first, I am a new user of mac, and I have recently joined the list. I do own an
iphone from some time, so I am familiar with voiceover with IOS. I have few
questions:
1. how do I browse webpages with the errow keys? I set navigation to DOM, then
I use vo+right errow key to move through the page bit by bit, like I would use
the errow keys alone with windows screen readers. I appreciate that the mac
works differently, however, I think there exists an easier way that I am not
aware of.
2, how do I open my applications menu? if I go to the doc and then navigate to
applications, then press that using vo+space, nothing happens and vo doesn't
read my applications. a sighted friend confirmed that the application list does
open.
3. what resources exist about voiceover for the mac apart from the excellent
getting started guide on apple website, and the builtin help, this group, and
perhaps bits here and there from macaccessibilities? is there something like
www.applevis.com but this time for the mac?
thanks alot.
Mohammed Al-shara.
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