I have to agree with Neil here.
I have been using computers and various operating systems for over 20 years. I 
have 4Gb of ram in my MacBook and find this is more than adequate for the tasks 
I perform. I do a bit more than e-mail, browsing, etc.; however, even running 
virtual machines, the 4Gb has met my needs. THere truly is a balance between 
CPU, ram, and all the other components that has to be considered.
So, do a true needs assessment before just running out and purchasing more ram. 
In fact spend some time looking at Activity Monitor, which can be found in 
/Applications/Utilities. If you take time to really understand the data 
Activity MOnitor provides, you can get a really good handle on your needs for 
ram etc.

Scott

On Jun 25, 2011, at 3:18 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> you are being stone walled, I run a major internet hosting operation, it 
> comes down to what are you doing with your machine? if you are doing basic 
> word processing, spread sheets, e-mail, internet, the usual things, iTunes 
> etc etc. then 4Gb is more than enough.
> 
> yes, if you are going to start loading multiple voice synth files in, then 
> you may wish to look at more, but assuming you opt for one, Alex, the basic 
> Apple voice, which is very good and fine for 99% of users. then 4Gb is more 
> than enough.
> 
> things like Pages, Numbers, Safari and Mail the four key players of apps, oh 
> and iTunes all use tiny amounts of RAM in real terms, so you are quite 
> literally paying for the RAM to sit there and do nothing.
> 
> this business of the more the merrier, you're the one who is going to be 
> forking out for all this unutalized RAM, I'm really, very serious about this 
> over purchase, its just not necessary, you will hand on heart notice 
> absolutely no difference whatsoever, and anyone thinking you will just 
> doesn't understand how these things are really put together. its an old wives 
> tail.
> 
> true in the days when we had 8Mb hard drives and when my cache level on my 
> current machine would make my machine's RAM even 10 years ago, go green with 
> envy, but this is the 21st century, technology is so very much more than the 
> RAM in the machine.
> 
> save your money, don't forget, you can always easily upgrade RAM later.
> 
> put it in one final other way, we have some 76,000 servers running, roughly, 
> most of these have between 16Gb and 64Gb of RAM, but these are handling 
> hundreds of clients at any one time, and serving up web pages and e-mail to 
> millions.
> 
> the most strenuous task you are going to do is to ask your machine to tab 
> between several running applications at the same time, and 4Gb of RAM is more 
> than enough to achieve this at far higher speeds than your fingers can press 
> the buttons to achieve the goal.
> 
> I've said my bit, more than my bit, this is not so much a twopence worth, as 
> more my wealth of experience and knowledge in this industry, you are wasting 
> your money over 4Gb, do not buy less though.
> 
> *Note*, this is advice aimed at regular users, if you are about to start 
> mixing up the decks, or creating your very own commercial home movies, then 
> lets re-think, but Minister Miller, assuming this is a divinity related 
> title, if the most you are doing is the odd e-mail, the odd Surinam for 
> Sunday service, and a like, then seriously, 4Gb... hum, on second thoughts, 
> is God on WiFi, you might need an extra WiFi base station... :) grin.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
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> On 25 Jun 2011, at 05:24, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
> 
> Okay, I am still on a few windows screen readers lists, since I teach a few 
> basic classes about JFW and know a lot about the windows side of things.  
> Anyways, someone said on this list that the average blind user needs no more 
> than 4 gigs of ram, at best anything over 8 would be a waste.  I'm no exburt, 
> but I have done a little research, and googling and have found that the more  
> ram you have, the smoother your system will run, mac or PC.  This person seem 
> to think even if you had a fast processor, that spending money on ram was a 
> waste.  Now I will admitt, that apple is a little pricy when it comes to ram, 
> but there are third party sellers out there with compatible memory for just 
> about any system.  Thoughts?  Oh, 1 more thing this person said, that the 
> only way more than 4 gigs would be necessary is if you were doing some high 
> quality video or audio editing.  What do you all think or know about these 
> numbers and comments?
> 
> Sent from Minister Miller's IPhone
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