Geoff,

sorry, just as the iMac ships with Garage Band, and other high end intensive 
applications pre installed, they do not auto run at start up, so in other 
words, a bottom end Mac Mini with the minimal spec verse an iMac fully loaded 
with 16Gb of RAM and the max of everything else, will still load at start up 
the same amount of things and the same applications, a slight variation of 
drivers etc, but essentially  the same stuff.

now this means that at this moment, the iMac could have survived with the same 
spec as the Mini, with the same performance levels, its only when you start 
loading stuff into RAM, which is user driven, that the issues might, and I 
stress might, begin to occur. I do not launch any of these things on my 
machine, and 4Gb is way more than enough.


Regards,

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On 25 Jun 2011, at 17:45, Geoff Shang wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> Naama,

I'm Naama's husband.  Of course, she can answer for herself, but I helped make 
the decision.

> you say you upgraded your iMac, and you are pleased with the results, how 
> much did you have in the past, what speed of RAM, which Mac do you have, what 
> bus speed, what processor, how fast was the spin speed on your hard drive, 
> what cache level etc.

This is a 2011-model iMac withan I5 quad-core and a 500 gb 7200 RPM hard drive. 
 We bought it with the extra RAM.

> you are implying that the pure RAM improvement made this difference, but the 
> implication is that you had a perfect machine and that the RAM slowed things 
> down, you may have had a lesser machine, and the RAM made things better for 
> you.

Actually, she didn't imply this.  She actually said:

"I upgraded my iMac to 8gigs of ram and I am not sorry in the learst."

This is not to say that she would have been unhappy with 4 gb of RAM, just that 
she's happy she opted to buy the extra 4 gb.

It is quite possible that a recent iMac will operate just fine on 4 gb of RAM 
for the foreseeable future.  But macs are not cheap.  As things are, we could 
not really afford to make this purchase, but we did because another computer 
died and we felt it was time to make the switch.  As such, we felt that 8 gb of 
RAM would future-proof the machine as much as possible without being a major 
expense.

It's worth remembering that the iMac by default comes with 4 gb of RAM. Yes, it 
also comes wiht Garage Band and iMovie Maker, and quite possibly that 4 gb of 
RAM is to accommodate these sorts of software.  But the fact is that it does 
ship with it and we use VoiceOver on top of these things.

Someone already mentioned the system requirements for Lion.  I can't help but 
wonder how much RAM the 2012 or 2013 era iMacs will ship with.

I guess my view is that if you can afford the upgrade and plan to get the most 
out of your mac, there's no harm in doing it.  Certainly it won't harm 
anything.  If things are running fine and you can't really justify the expense, 
don't worry about it for now.

Geoff.

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