Clifton, we're going off the topic thread here, but I have three Mac's as I have an Air for portable things, an iMac which is our family desktop and a Mini which is my cinema media server.
anyway, I was not talking about me saving money, only that we cannot make money saving guesses on behalf of someone who has not stated that they are happy to burn as many pennies as are available. one assumes someone asking how much to buy, is asking so that they do not over kill a machine, and as such do not spend more then they need to. if money were no object, they'd likely, note, likely, spend whatever necessary to get the maximum performance. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - [email protected] Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 25 Jun 2011, at 19:45, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: For arguments sake, wouldn't it have been cheaper for you to get 12 gigs of ram in one machine, then to by 3 with 4 gigs each? Were talking about to much, to little, and cost effective things, but now you say you have 3 macs with 4 gigs each, isn't that a bit redundant? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Google Voice) 657-229-2105 Sent from my IMac On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > CJ, no one said 2Gb was enough, but on my 3 MAc's with 4Gb each, they never > do that busy thing with pages, no-one is saying that to little is enough, but > that there is a cross over between not enough and enough, and over board. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - [email protected] > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > On 25 Jun 2011, at 17:55, CJ Daniel wrote: > > Really, > > Have you tried looking through the hundreds of templates in the opening > screen of Pages? Every time you arrow to another template image there are > moments of "Pages Busy," while the VoiceOver tries to process the info. And, > I've got two gigs of ram. Disagree wholeheartedly. The more ram, the faster > your screen reader will respond. That's always been my experience, despite > what the tech's say. > > CJ > > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > >> you are being stone walled, I run a major internet hosting operation, it >> comes down to what are you doing with your machine? if you are doing basic >> word processing, spread sheets, e-mail, internet, the usual things, iTunes >> etc etc. then 4Gb is more than enough. >> >> yes, if you are going to start loading multiple voice synth files in, then >> you may wish to look at more, but assuming you opt for one, Alex, the basic >> Apple voice, which is very good and fine for 99% of users. then 4Gb is more >> than enough. >> >> things like Pages, Numbers, Safari and Mail the four key players of apps, oh >> and iTunes all use tiny amounts of RAM in real terms, so you are quite >> literally paying for the RAM to sit there and do nothing. >> >> this business of the more the merrier, you're the one who is going to be >> forking out for all this unutalized RAM, I'm really, very serious about this >> over purchase, its just not necessary, you will hand on heart notice >> absolutely no difference whatsoever, and anyone thinking you will just >> doesn't understand how these things are really put together. its an old >> wives tail. >> >> true in the days when we had 8Mb hard drives and when my cache level on my >> current machine would make my machine's RAM even 10 years ago, go green with >> envy, but this is the 21st century, technology is so very much more than the >> RAM in the machine. >> >> save your money, don't forget, you can always easily upgrade RAM later. >> >> put it in one final other way, we have some 76,000 servers running, roughly, >> most of these have between 16Gb and 64Gb of RAM, but these are handling >> hundreds of clients at any one time, and serving up web pages and e-mail to >> millions. >> >> the most strenuous task you are going to do is to ask your machine to tab >> between several running applications at the same time, and 4Gb of RAM is >> more than enough to achieve this at far higher speeds than your fingers can >> press the buttons to achieve the goal. >> >> I've said my bit, more than my bit, this is not so much a twopence worth, as >> more my wealth of experience and knowledge in this industry, you are wasting >> your money over 4Gb, do not buy less though. >> >> *Note*, this is advice aimed at regular users, if you are about to start >> mixing up the decks, or creating your very own commercial home movies, then >> lets re-think, but Minister Miller, assuming this is a divinity related >> title, if the most you are doing is the odd e-mail, the odd Surinam for >> Sunday service, and a like, then seriously, 4Gb... hum, on second thoughts, >> is God on WiFi, you might need an extra WiFi base station... :) grin. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - [email protected] >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> On 25 Jun 2011, at 05:24, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: >> >> Okay, I am still on a few windows screen readers lists, since I teach a few >> basic classes about JFW and know a lot about the windows side of things. >> Anyways, someone said on this list that the average blind user needs no more >> than 4 gigs of ram, at best anything over 8 would be a waste. I'm no >> exburt, but I have done a little research, and googling and have found that >> the more ram you have, the smoother your system will run, mac or PC. This >> person seem to think even if you had a fast processor, that spending money >> on ram was a waste. Now I will admitt, that apple is a little pricy when it >> comes to ram, but there are third party sellers out there with compatible >> memory for just about any system. Thoughts? Oh, 1 more thing this person >> said, that the only way more than 4 gigs would be necessary is if you were >> doing some high quality video or audio editing. 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