Carolyn,

Regardless of any subsequent messages, this is the only message that you will 
receive from me on this reply. I'm posting this solely on the merit of what was 
suggested, not on friendship or enmity.
According to Chris, a former senior adviser who has been promoted to an 
engineer has confirmed that this solution, though extreme, is totally viable 
and works perfectly. I haven't tried this solution, as I'm a newby and I don't 
trust that I wouldn't fowl something up, but I do trust his credibility.Chris 
is working on his apple certifications. He has worked on the Unix server side 
for at least ten years trying to write bash scripts. His experience is with 
Unix, Linux, Free BSD, Open Suce and others.
This is not Unix, but Mac OSX is based on Unix under the hood, so that's why it 
works. Is this solution daunting? Oh baby is it ever! If Chris crashes my 
system due to a muck-up on his part, it's not the biggest deal due to my Time 
Machine backup. If the logic board is fried, Time Machine ain't comin' to my 
rescue! What he suggested is incredible in the best sense of that word!

Frankly, I'm not sure why he doesn't go out to Cupertino to work for Apple.

Carolyn, yo hablo español. Estudié en Hermosillo, Sonora, México por un 
semestre, y gané un diploma universitario en lengua española. Recibí un 
certificado en interpretación medical. Si usted va decirle mal a la gente, 
favor de escribir bien sus palabras. No he oído hablar de "tiquila". Si usted 
se refiere a la bebida alcólica, se llama "tequila".

Carolyn, I speak Spanish fluently. I studied in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico for 
a semester. I earned a Bachelor's degree in Spanish Language and a 
certification in medical interpreting. If you're gonna cut people down, at 
least spell your drinks correctly. I've not heard of "tiquila", but I have 
heard of "tequila." In Chris's defense, knock it off!

P.S. If either Chris or I are moderated or banned because of this subthread, we 
are both leaving the list. He has confirmed this with me.

Sincerely in Christ,

Ben J. Bloomgren



On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:39 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:

> This is ridiculous!  Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two shots 
> of tiquila!!!
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for 
>> the faint at heart.  It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things 
>> apart, LOL!  but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to 
>> take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T!
>> 
>> Again, let's get a few things straight:  I, nor any mods, nor any members, 
>> nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing 
>> th3e following process.  You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the 
>> list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless.  Though I'm not 
>> saying to do this, it's a sure fix.
>> 
>> First of all, the problem at hand:
>> 
>> I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've 
>> determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating 
>> of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, 
>> by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be!
>> 
>> I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way 
>> Spotlight in Lion indexes things.  for those who like Lion, I'll say this: 
>> Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't come 
>> crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating.  I say 
>> this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, your 
>> fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about twice as 
>> hot.
>> 
>> Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am 
>> saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk!
>> 
>> Let's get started!  I'll say again, follow me to a T!  If you don't, then 
>> don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks.
>> 
>> 1.  Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, 
>> obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this.
>> 
>> 2.  Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight
>> 
>> 3.  On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and 
>> interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of 
>> the boxes on each row.  I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my 
>> spotlight!  Yes. It will.  You're correct.  %That's the only? way we're for 
>> now, until an update comes out gonna fix this.  I'm sorry, it's either this, 
>> or have an over-heating logicboard.
>> 
>> 4.  Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button.
>> 
>> .  In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit 
>> command+shift+C to go to computer.
>> 
>> 6.  locate Macintosh HD.  don't! open it, just arrow to and select it.  I 
>> repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it.
>> 
>> 7.  Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or 
>> whatever it's called, can't remember exactly.
>> 
>> 8.  When told this could effect other applications from the search feature 
>> working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list.  Trust me, you'll 
>> be fine.
>> 
>> 9.  Press command+W to close System Preferences.
>> 
>> O? K!  Now, for the really brutal work!  I know I've said this before, but I 
>> say again, follow me, to? a, T!
>> 
>> 1.  Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on 
>> terminal.app.
>> 
>> 2.  Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing
>> 
>> sudo mdsutil -a -i off
>> 
>> Then press return.
>> 
>> Type your administrator password, then hit return.
>> 
>> Great!  Now indexing should be disabled.
>> 
>> 3.  Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing:
>> 
>> sudo launchctl unload -w 
>> /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist
>> 
>> Then press return.  You may again need to enter your password, but probably 
>> not.
>> 
>> If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! 
>> If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way!
>> 
>> Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight 
>> menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the 
>> following two commands.  I should add all these commands are case sensitive, 
>> so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just go do 'em 
>> again.
>> 
>> Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear.  I'd not advise doing 
>> this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type:
>> 
>> sudo chmod 600 
>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search
>> 
>> Then for the change to take effect, type:
>> 
>> killall SystemUIServer
>> 
>> And hit return.
>> 
>> Then quit Terminal with command+Q.
>> 
>> Boom!  Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer!
>> 
>> Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, I'll 
>> write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap.
>> 
>> Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something blew 
>> up in your face along the way, again, I didn't say! to do this!  I said, do 
>> it soly at your own risk.
>> 
>> Chris. 
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