Hello Tim: As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and clear explanation. Thank you.
Carolyn On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd > suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure > that the Processes pop-up is set to "All Processes" and then take a look at > the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones > beginning with "MD" are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not > using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally > unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the greatest > amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their importance. > Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if you're not > familiar with the entire picture. > > One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often > index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this > indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're > not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in > behaviour. > > Just my thoughts. > > Later… > > On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Yes Dear. >> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on my >>> block sender's list. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn Haas" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution >>> >>> >>> This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two >>> shots of tiquila!!! >>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>> >>>> Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for >>>> the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things >>>> apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to >>>> take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! >>>> >>>> Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any members, >>>> nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing >>>> th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the >>>> list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless. Though I'm not >>>> saying to do this, it's a sure fix. >>>> >>>> First of all, the problem at hand: >>>> >>>> I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've >>>> determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the >>>> over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees >>>> celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, >>>> should be! >>>> >>>> I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way >>>> Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say this: >>>> Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't >>>> come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I >>>> say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, >>>> your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about >>>> twice as hot. >>>> >>>> Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I >>>> am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk! >>>> >>>> Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, then >>>> don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. >>>> >>>> 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, >>>> obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. >>>> >>>> 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight >>>> >>>> 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and >>>> interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of >>>> the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my >>>> spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? way we're >>>> for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, it's either >>>> this, or have an over-heating logicboard. >>>> >>>> 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. >>>> >>>> . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit >>>> command+shift+C to go to computer. >>>> >>>> 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I >>>> repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. >>>> >>>> 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, >>>> or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. >>>> >>>> 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search feature >>>> working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust me, >>>> you'll be fine. >>>> >>>> 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. >>>> >>>> O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, but >>>> I say again, follow me, to? a, T! >>>> >>>> 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on >>>> terminal.app. >>>> >>>> 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing >>>> >>>> sudo mdsutil -a -i off >>>> >>>> Then press return. >>>> >>>> Type your administrator password, then hit return. >>>> >>>> Great! Now indexing should be disabled. >>>> >>>> 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: >>>> >>>> sudo launchctl unload -w >>>> /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist >>>> >>>> Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but >>>> probably not. >>>> >>>> If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're >>>> done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, >>>> either way! >>>> >>>> Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight >>>> menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the >>>> following two commands. I should add all these commands are case >>>> sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, >>>> just go do 'em again. >>>> >>>> Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise doing >>>> this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: >>>> >>>> sudo chmod 600 >>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search >>>> >>>> Then for the change to take effect, type: >>>> >>>> killall SystemUIServer >>>> >>>> And hit return. >>>> >>>> Then quit Terminal with command+Q. >>>> >>>> Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer! >>>> >>>> Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, >>>> I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap. >>>> >>>> Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something blew >>>> up in your face along the way, again, I didn't say! to do this! I said, >>>> do it soly at your own risk. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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