Hi,

I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue.  In fact, I'd suggest 
You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure that the 
Processes pop-up is set to "All Processes" and then take a look at the percent 
CPU of the running processes.  For the most part, the ones beginning with "MD" 
are the Spotlight related processes.  If they are not using a high percentage 
of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is totally unnecessary.  Actually, 
I'd simply note the processes using the greatest amount of CPU and check with 
someone knowledgeable as to their importance.  Stopping processes can lead to 
undesirable consequences if you're not familiar with the entire picture.

One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often 
index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this 
indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat.  If you're not 
using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes in 
behaviour.

Just my thoughts.

Later…

On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:

> Yes Dear.
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further.  you've been put on my 
>> block sender's list.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn Haas" <chaas0...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution
>> 
>> 
>> This is ridiculous!  Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two 
>> shots of tiquila!!!
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be for 
>>> the faint at heart.  It's all software-sided, you won't be taking things 
>>> apart, LOL!  but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby trying to 
>>> take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T!
>>> 
>>> Again, let's get a few things straight:  I, nor any mods, nor any members, 
>>> nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur from doing 
>>> th3e following process.  You agree by doing this to hold everyone on the 
>>> list including myself as well as Apple totally blameless.  Though I'm not 
>>> saying to do this, it's a sure fix.
>>> 
>>> First of all, the problem at hand:
>>> 
>>> I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've 
>>> determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the over-heating 
>>> of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees celcius, which is, 
>>> by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan temp, should be!
>>> 
>>> I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way 
>>> Spotlight in Lion indexes things.  for those who like Lion, I'll say this: 
>>> Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, don't 
>>> come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from overheating. I 
>>> say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're anything like me, 
>>> your fans will be running about twice as fast and your smc will be about 
>>> twice as hot.
>>> 
>>> Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I am 
>>> saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own risk!
>>> 
>>> Let's get started!  I'll say again, follow me to a T!  If you don't, then 
>>> don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, 
>>> obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight
>>> 
>>> 3.  On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and 
>>> interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! of 
>>> the boxes on each row.  I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna disable my 
>>> spotlight!  Yes. It will.  You're correct.  %That's the only? way we're for 
>>> now, until an update comes out gonna fix this.  I'm sorry, it's either 
>>> this, or have an over-heating logicboard.
>>> 
>>> 4.  Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button.
>>> 
>>> .  In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit 
>>> command+shift+C to go to computer.
>>> 
>>> 6.  locate Macintosh HD.  don't! open it, just arrow to and select it.  I 
>>> repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, or 
>>> whatever it's called, can't remember exactly.
>>> 
>>> 8.  When told this could effect other applications from the search feature 
>>> working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list.  Trust me, 
>>> you'll be fine.
>>> 
>>> 9.  Press command+W to close System Preferences.
>>> 
>>> O? K!  Now, for the really brutal work!  I know I've said this before, but 
>>> I say again, follow me, to? a, T!
>>> 
>>> 1.  Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on 
>>> terminal.app.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing
>>> 
>>> sudo mdsutil -a -i off
>>> 
>>> Then press return.
>>> 
>>> Type your administrator password, then hit return.
>>> 
>>> Great!  Now indexing should be disabled.
>>> 
>>> 3.  Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing:
>>> 
>>> sudo launchctl unload -w 
>>> /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist
>>> 
>>> Then press return.  You may again need to enter your password, but probably 
>>> not.
>>> 
>>> If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're done! 
>>> If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, either way!
>>> 
>>> Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the spotllight 
>>> menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal type the 
>>> following two commands.  I should add all these commands are case 
>>> sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any harm, just 
>>> go do 'em again.
>>> 
>>> Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear.  I'd not advise doing 
>>> this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type:
>>> 
>>> sudo chmod 600 
>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search
>>> 
>>> Then for the change to take effect, type:
>>> 
>>> killall SystemUIServer
>>> 
>>> And hit return.
>>> 
>>> Then quit Terminal with command+Q.
>>> 
>>> Boom!  Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot computer!
>>> 
>>> Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, I'll 
>>> write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap.
>>> 
>>> Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something blew 
>>> up in your face along the way, again, I didn't say! to do this!  I said, do 
>>> it soly at your own risk.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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