No advice is ever useless. That was not the point of my post. My point was that research and caution should be taken before anyone tries any given suggestion presented to them, and should be completely certain that the remedy offered is something that will fix the problem. If you have found what you recommended to work for you and others who have taken your advice also have found similar success, all the better for everyone. Again, I was not seeking to discredit or detract from anyone's efforts. I was just suggesting caution and patience in determine exactly what is going on with the heating issue. Spotlight surely makes sense as a cause because of the indexing done in Lion, but that also does not infer or imply it's the only cause. Verification through multiple sources with any given matter is always something that one should consider. It's just common sense.
Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > John, I tried all the things you and Tim suggested from the Activity Monitor, > to the forums, etc. > > I'm sorry if my advice was useless. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanar...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution > > > I agree with Tim as well. I have a mid 2010 MBP and are not having any > issues with heating. I think, however, when one is troubleshooting any > issue, a lot of research and caution should be undertaken. I am one who > likes to have multiple expert sources when it comes to an offered solution > and the instructions on how to carry out any given task. Additionally, I > prefer not to attempt anything requiring such caution until I have exhausted > all other options. Thus, Tim's suggestion about using Activity monitor is > surely a important place to start in trying to determine what processes might > be causing a system to run hot and what may be hogging resources. Also, check > the Apple forums and the various Apple related information sites, like Mac > World, Mac Tidbits and other similar outlets to see if an issue is discussed > and solutions are offered by multiple sources that seem to suggest the same > procedures. > > Just my two cents, for what it's worth. I am not questioning anyone's > knowledge or experience on the list, btw. I simply prefer having more than > one source for any recommendation and being sure that recommendation has been > utilized with success by more than a few individuals before I'll try it. > > Take Care > > John Panarese > jpanar...@gmail.com > > > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:39 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hello Tim: >> As usual, very well thought out and very well spoken. I don't have the >> issue at present, thankfully. But, I really appreciate your succinct and >> clear explanation. >> Thank you. >> >> Carolyn >> On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I suggest that people dig a little deeper into the issue. In fact, I'd >>> suggest You go into Activity Monitor, Interact with the Toolbar, make sure >>> that the Processes pop-up is set to "All Processes" and then take a look at >>> the percent CPU of the running processes. For the most part, the ones >>> beginning with "MD" are the Spotlight related processes. If they are not >>> using a high percentage of the CPU, then the below mentioned idea is >>> totally unnecessary. Actually, I'd simply note the processes using the >>> greatest amount of CPU and check with someone knowledgeable as to their >>> importance. Stopping processes can lead to undesirable consequences if >>> you're not familiar with the entire picture. >>> >>> One thing to note for those of you using external HDs, Spotlight will often >>> index that external HD, especially if it's a clone of your main HD, this >>> indexing will certainly create extra load and thus, extra heat. If you're >>> not using the drive consistently, disconnect it and you'll notice changes >>> in behaviour. >>> >>> Just my thoughts. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> On 2011-07-26, at 10:35 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> >>>> Yes Dear. >>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>> >>>>> Carolyn, BTW, no need to write me anything further. you've been put on >>>>> my block sender's list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn Haas" <chaas0...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:39 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: for those who's macbooks are running hot, I have a sollution >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is ridiculous! Please apply with a grain of salt and at least two >>>>> shots of tiquila!!! >>>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! This is not! going to be >>>>>> for the faint at heart. It's all software-sided, you won't be taking >>>>>> things apart, LOL! but it's still ***not!*** something I advise a nuby >>>>>> trying to take on unless you follow my instructions to, a, T! >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, let's get a few things straight: I, nor any mods, nor any >>>>>> members, nor Apple will be held responsible for anything that may occur >>>>>> from doing th3e following process. You agree by doing this to hold >>>>>> everyone on the list including myself as well as Apple totally >>>>>> blameless. Though I'm not saying to do this, it's a sure fix. >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all, the problem at hand: >>>>>> >>>>>> I hate saying this, but after hours of research the past few days, I've >>>>>> determined that it's the mds server daemon that is causing the >>>>>> over-heating of up to 2 thousand rpm on the fan and about 85 degrees >>>>>> celcius, which is, by the way, over twice! gasp! Yikes! what the fan >>>>>> temp, should be! >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not totally sure why, but I tell you, it has to do with the way >>>>>> Spotlight in Lion indexes things. for those who like Lion, I'll say >>>>>> this: Fine! leave it on and don't do this procedure, but I'll also say, >>>>>> don't come crying to me nor Apple when your logicboard fries from >>>>>> overheating. I say this not to scare you, but, realisticly, if you're >>>>>> anything like me, your fans will be running about twice as fast and your >>>>>> smc will be about twice as hot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, I'm sorry if I'm out of line by posting these directions, but as I >>>>>> am saying again and again after again, You! do this soly! at your own >>>>>> risk! >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's get started! I'll say again, follow me to a T! If you don't, >>>>>> then don't look at me if something doesn't work, or breaks. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Quick with command+Q every single app you currently have opened, >>>>>> obviously except for Mail, so that you can keep reading how to do this. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Go to system preferences, then to Spotlight >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. On the search results tab, vo+right arrow over to the table, and >>>>>> interact with it, then in the first column, uncheck every? single one! >>>>>> of the boxes on each row. I know, you're going WTF! That's gonna >>>>>> disable my spotlight! Yes. It will. You're correct. %That's the only? >>>>>> way we're for now, until an update comes out gonna fix this. I'm sorry, >>>>>> it's either this, or have an over-heating logicboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Now, go to the exclusions tab, and vo+Space on the add button. >>>>>> >>>>>> . In the browser window, interact with the browser, then hit >>>>>> command+shift+C to go to computer. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. locate Macintosh HD. don't! open it, just arrow to and select it. I >>>>>> repeat: don't! open it, just highlight it. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7. Stop interacting with the browser, and go to the open/choose button, >>>>>> or whatever it's called, can't remember exactly. >>>>>> >>>>>> 8. When told this could effect other applications from the search >>>>>> feature working, just say yes/ok to add it to the exclusions list. Trust >>>>>> me, you'll be fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> 9. Press command+W to close System Preferences. >>>>>> >>>>>> O? K! Now, for the really brutal work! I know I've said this before, >>>>>> but I say again, follow me, to? a, T! >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Open your Utilities folder with command+shift+U, then command+O on >>>>>> terminal.app. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Disable the indexing of spotlight by typing >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo mdsutil -a -i off >>>>>> >>>>>> Then press return. >>>>>> >>>>>> Type your administrator password, then hit return. >>>>>> >>>>>> Great! Now indexing should be disabled. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Now, unload the spotlight daemonn by typing: >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo launchctl unload -w >>>>>> /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata/mds/plist >>>>>> >>>>>> Then press return. You may again need to enter your password, but >>>>>> probably not. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you get a message that the daemon already is unloaded, then you're >>>>>> done! If not, that should unload things, at which point you're done, >>>>>> either way! >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, if you really wanna be a smart butt, and totally make the >>>>>> spotllight menu bar item totally vannish for the time being, in terminal >>>>>> type the following two commands. I should add all these commands are >>>>>> case sensitive, so if you messed up above, it's ok, you didn't do any >>>>>> harm, just go do 'em again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's the command to make the spotlight disappear. I'd not advise >>>>>> doing this, but if you really? want to, here's what to type: >>>>>> >>>>>> sudo chmod 600 >>>>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Search.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Search >>>>>> >>>>>> Then for the change to take effect, type: >>>>>> >>>>>> killall SystemUIServer >>>>>> >>>>>> And hit return. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then quit Terminal with command+Q. >>>>>> >>>>>> Boom! Congradulations, no more spotlight, and boom! no more hot >>>>>> computer! >>>>>> >>>>>> Once I've been notified that Apple has made an update to address this, >>>>>> I'll write another e-mail post on how to undo all this crap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, I didn't say this was for the faint of heart, and if something >>>>>> blew up in your face along the way, again, I didn't say! to do this! I >>>>>> said, do it soly at your own risk. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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