What needs to happen is for Apple to include basic scripts like this right inside vo, so there is no loading going on. All screen readers have keys to read time, date, and battery status, so vo should be no different. Instead of just reporting that reading the time can be very slow, I encourage you to ask for these basics to be built into vo from the start, avoiding the load problem altogether. On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:36 AM, "Daniel Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I believe that's normal behavior, since as someone pointed out before, the > script that is attached to that keystroke has to be loaded into memory > first, which on some machines takes a while. I seriously don't think they'll > say much about it, since it doesn't seem to be a bug. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:29 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Delay Before Time and Date Spoken Using right-option-t Keys > > Hi, guys, > > Yes, I use the Alex voice for everything, so I don't think that's a factor > in my case. However, the question of more responsiveness after one press is > definitely a factor. I only notice the delay the first time I press the key > combo in a long time. Subsequent presses are much more responsive. > > I will report this to Apple. > > Thanks, > Teresa > > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I would not hesitate to ask Apple for any fix you can think of, big or > small. They can prioritize things, but they will never know to fix a problem > if they don't know it exists. As to clicks, you can mute vo through the help > menus (vo-h) or by setting up a keyboard or trackpad commander to do it. >> On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Jürgen Fleger <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >>> Interesting. Here's usually a delay of 3 seconds maximum. I just tried it > even without any delay. Might be because it was not the first time today. >>> >>> Topic delay: I experience an annoying delay on web pages after pressing > VO + a to read from the cursor. For example to read an article on Wikipedia > is no fun. It takes ages. For me there's to much delay after full stops and > commas and when a link is anounced. Also the info how many objects a header > on a web page has takes to much time for me. At least on my german OS VO > anounces the objects in a header followed by a very long pause. Yes, I know > of the Reader. But it's also annoying to hear again and again "clickable" at > the end of a line. >>> >>> But honnestly: I don't dare to ask Apple for such small things as long as > VoiceOver contains the real big bugs as pdf or tables in text documents or > the VoiceOver calender issue in iOS. >>> >>> All the best >>> Jürgen >>> Am 11.12.2012 um 08:20 schrieb Harry Hogue <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Alex and Teresa, >>>> >>>> I have found this same issue, and have this theory as well. I do not > often use the keyboard commander VoiceOVer scripts for this reason, such as > opt+B for battery, opt+M for Mail, etc. With each of these commands there > is a lengthy delay that doesn't make the command practical to use much. > Once it is loaded into memory, it then works fine. As for the voice, I use > Fred on a regular basis, and still find this delay even though the voice > used for the script is the same one that VoiceOver uses at other times. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> On dic 10, 2012, at 10:56 p.m., Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Me too. My theory is that the script to speak the information has >>>>> to be pulled from the hard drive and loaded into ram, then the >>>>> voice used has to be looked for and loaded if it is not already >>>>> being used. Does the script use a voice that vo is not using by >>>>> default? If so, I have a script that uses vo's own speech, speeding the > process a good deal. >>>>> >>>>> On 12/11/12, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've noticed for quite some time that when I press right-option-t >>>>>> for time as the default for the VO keyboard commander time and >>>>>> date, there's about a twenty-second delay before anything is >>>>>> spoken. I'm just curious if anyone else has experienced this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the >>>>>> Forsyte Saga >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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