agreed, and thanks for bringing it up. I don't think we need to start in with 
the divisive Mac vs PC stuff. It only causes needless upset and stifles 
communication. 

I have no brand loyalty to Apple or Microsoft - it's all too ridiculous. I just 
want to get stuff done and whoever makes that possible gets my $$$.





  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:36 PM
  Subject: Re: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to 
iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?


  Scott,


  I hope that you realize that the "Apple Hater" comment was not from me nor 
any part of my responses to you.  My intent was to understand where you were 
coming from with your iTunes frustrations and to provide any assistance and/or 
clarifications that could help you with the use of iTunes.


  Good luck with everything and don't be afraid to keep sending any questions 
to us here on the list.  There's always someone who can help in some way.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada


  On 2012-12-12, at 8:49 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected]> wrote:


    Hi all.
    Kim: I'll have to look into syncing iCloud with my documents, I have
    Pages for iOS, but not the Mac. I'm quite new to the Mac world, so I'm
    still trying to get on my feet from that perspective. I love how you
    can use braille displays to essentially control the entire computer,
    without ever having to lay a finger on the keyboard.
    I use iTunes because I must. As for me being an Apple hater, well, I
    would think that someone who owns an iPod, iPhone, and a Macbook Air
    would be far from an Apple hater, but what do I know? LOL. I'm simply
    voicing my frustrations with iTunes, and trying to help clerify why
    some people wish to have alternatives to this software. Am I an iTunes
    hater? For sure. Am I an Apple hater? Absolutely not. I like some
    things they do and not others, just like with any other company. I
    suppose there are some companies I could be labeled as a hater of, FS
    and HW spring to mind, but I digress. (smiles).

    Scott

    On 12/12/12, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:

      That is because your tracks are not correctly identified as far as iTunes 
is
      concerned. Yu can fix this by doing cmd-i in iTunes on each track and
      changing the track number but if you have a lot of misidentified or
      not-identified albums like I do, that is easier said than done. I think I
      would wholeheartedly love iTunes had I been able to predict the future and
      waited a few years to rip all my albums and give away the originals. If
      track order is your only problem, there might be a program or script out
      there that could redo them if you put them in the right order.


      --
      Cheryl

      May the words of my mouth
      and the meditation of my heart
      be acceptable to You, Lord,
      my rock and my Redeemer.
      (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



      On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Jessica Moss <[email protected]>
      wrote:


        Join the club, I have a love/hate relationship with it myself, 
especially
        sense it does this wonderful thing, where it loves to play all my songs
        out of order some of the time when, for  example, I have an album that's
        by various artists, and I want the album tracks played in chronological
        order and not alphabetized by artist's names; so that can get
        frustrating.
        On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Shen wrote:


          I agree. I don't think it's a bad question at all.
          Also, many people get accessibility confused with personal choice. If 
my
          personal choice is something that is not Apple, it doesn't mean I'm a
          hater. It's a personal choice.
          I too am not very happy with iTunes. This has been the case from day
          one.
          I understand that iTunes is suppose to make it easy to organize your
          library. I agree, if the library is 5000 songs.
          But if I just want to add 1 song to my iPhone, I have to go through 
the
          lengthy process of adding it to iTunes, then sync it with my iPhone, 
and
          then wait 5 minutes while iTunes checks everything else.
          But for the moment, I will continue using it until something better 
comes
          along.




          On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Pete Nalda <[email protected]> wrote:


            I don't think this question was all that bad.  I've lost the 
ability to
            manually sync my iPhone to iTunes 11. So, at this rate, I may have 
to
            look for an alternative as well.  Also, I'm becoming more
            disenfranchised with the Apple Paradigm lately as well.  I want 
more of
            my music library on my iPhone 4, and the iPhone 5 is not on any 
prepaid
            carrier, and the sim card is a different size, so I can't even buy 
an
            unlocked 5 and put it on my carrier.  This doesn't mean I hate Apple
            myself, only that I'm wondering about the way things are headed.  
Also,
            they only give you the option to switch iTunes to classic mode at
            installation, so there's no switching once you've chosen unless you 
do
            some sort of hack.  Apple isn't always right in its' decision 
making.
            Don't even get me started on the Maps ordeal on iOS.

            On Dec 11, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
<[email protected]>
            wrote:


              Hmmm, sounds like we have another Apple hater on our hands. Good 
luck
              with hoping for Android to improve accessibility. As for the guy 
that
              had an issue with using Itunes with his iPod, if you find 
anything else
              besides Itunes, I'd love to hear it, because like it or not, we're
              stuck with what we got. Also you can use Itunes on your iPhone or 
iPod
              and purchase stuff there too if you have trouble with the Mac 
version.

              Shawn
              Sent from my white Mac Book


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