Hi Kim.
I understand that it wasn't you who was saying that, I appologize for
not addressing whoever that was directly. I'm glad to be on this list
and hope I can offer more help than asking for it once I'm fully up
and running. The mac can be frustrating at times, though I'm sure this
is because I'm new to it.

Wishing you all the best from NY,
Scott

On 12/12/12, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote:
> agreed, and thanks for bringing it up. I don't think we need to start in
> with the divisive Mac vs PC stuff. It only causes needless upset and stifles
> communication.
>
> I have no brand loyalty to Apple or Microsoft - it's all too ridiculous. I
> just want to get stuff done and whoever makes that possible gets my $$$.
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: Tim Kilburn
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:36 PM
>   Subject: Re: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to
> iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?
>
>
>   Scott,
>
>
>   I hope that you realize that the "Apple Hater" comment was not from me nor
> any part of my responses to you.  My intent was to understand where you were
> coming from with your iTunes frustrations and to provide any assistance
> and/or clarifications that could help you with the use of iTunes.
>
>
>   Good luck with everything and don't be afraid to keep sending any
> questions to us here on the list.  There's always someone who can help in
> some way.
>
>
>   Later...
>
>
>   Tim Kilburn
>   Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
>
>   On 2012-12-12, at 8:49 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>     Hi all.
>     Kim: I'll have to look into syncing iCloud with my documents, I have
>     Pages for iOS, but not the Mac. I'm quite new to the Mac world, so I'm
>     still trying to get on my feet from that perspective. I love how you
>     can use braille displays to essentially control the entire computer,
>     without ever having to lay a finger on the keyboard.
>     I use iTunes because I must. As for me being an Apple hater, well, I
>     would think that someone who owns an iPod, iPhone, and a Macbook Air
>     would be far from an Apple hater, but what do I know? LOL. I'm simply
>     voicing my frustrations with iTunes, and trying to help clerify why
>     some people wish to have alternatives to this software. Am I an iTunes
>     hater? For sure. Am I an Apple hater? Absolutely not. I like some
>     things they do and not others, just like with any other company. I
>     suppose there are some companies I could be labeled as a hater of, FS
>     and HW spring to mind, but I digress. (smiles).
>
>     Scott
>
>     On 12/12/12, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>       That is because your tracks are not correctly identified as far as
> iTunes is
>       concerned. Yu can fix this by doing cmd-i in iTunes on each track and
>       changing the track number but if you have a lot of misidentified or
>       not-identified albums like I do, that is easier said than done. I
> think I
>       would wholeheartedly love iTunes had I been able to predict the future
> and
>       waited a few years to rip all my albums and give away the originals.
> If
>       track order is your only problem, there might be a program or script
> out
>       there that could redo them if you put them in the right order.
>
>
>       --
>       Cheryl
>
>       May the words of my mouth
>       and the meditation of my heart
>       be acceptable to You, Lord,
>       my rock and my Redeemer.
>       (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>
>
>
>       On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Jessica Moss <[email protected]>
>       wrote:
>
>
>         Join the club, I have a love/hate relationship with it myself,
> especially
>         sense it does this wonderful thing, where it loves to play all my
> songs
>         out of order some of the time when, for  example, I have an album
> that's
>         by various artists, and I want the album tracks played in
> chronological
>         order and not alphabetized by artist's names; so that can get
>         frustrating.
>         On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Shen wrote:
>
>
>           I agree. I don't think it's a bad question at all.
>           Also, many people get accessibility confused with personal choice.
> If my
>           personal choice is something that is not Apple, it doesn't mean
> I'm a
>           hater. It's a personal choice.
>           I too am not very happy with iTunes. This has been the case from
> day
>           one.
>           I understand that iTunes is suppose to make it easy to organize
> your
>           library. I agree, if the library is 5000 songs.
>           But if I just want to add 1 song to my iPhone, I have to go
> through the
>           lengthy process of adding it to iTunes, then sync it with my
> iPhone, and
>           then wait 5 minutes while iTunes checks everything else.
>           But for the moment, I will continue using it until something
> better comes
>           along.
>
>
>
>
>           On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Pete Nalda <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>             I don't think this question was all that bad.  I've lost the
> ability to
>             manually sync my iPhone to iTunes 11. So, at this rate, I may
> have to
>             look for an alternative as well.  Also, I'm becoming more
>             disenfranchised with the Apple Paradigm lately as well.  I want
> more of
>             my music library on my iPhone 4, and the iPhone 5 is not on any
> prepaid
>             carrier, and the sim card is a different size, so I can't even
> buy an
>             unlocked 5 and put it on my carrier.  This doesn't mean I hate
> Apple
>             myself, only that I'm wondering about the way things are headed.
>  Also,
>             they only give you the option to switch iTunes to classic mode
> at
>             installation, so there's no switching once you've chosen unless
> you do
>             some sort of hack.  Apple isn't always right in its' decision
> making.
>             Don't even get me started on the Maps ordeal on iOS.
>
>             On Dec 11, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Shawn Krasniuk
> <[email protected]>
>             wrote:
>
>
>               Hmmm, sounds like we have another Apple hater on our hands.
> Good luck
>               with hoping for Android to improve accessibility. As for the
> guy that
>               had an issue with using Itunes with his iPod, if you find
> anything else
>               besides Itunes, I'd love to hear it, because like it or not,
> we're
>               stuck with what we got. Also you can use Itunes on your iPhone
> or iPod
>               and purchase stuff there too if you have trouble with the Mac
> version.
>
>               Shawn
>               Sent from my white Mac Book
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