Well, I apologize for my reply then, but I did not see the original poster's question as stealing. I'll not go into the Movie Vault here, but copying a dvd one already owns is, to me, not stealing anything. Provided the digital copy is not sold to, given to, or otherwise distributed to anyone else, I see the copy as a backup or a way of watching something you already paid for on another device. For instance, say you have a Mac Mini hooked up to a living room tv, but the Mini has no disk drive (as they have not for a couple years). You also have a Macbook (also no disk drive) in the house. Both devices share a network-based iTunes library, and as neither can play your movie, you simply convert the movie into a format that your devices can use. Yes, you can buy the movie twice over just to have it in a compatible format, but now you've paid twice for something you owned in the first place but was simply not compatible with today's technology. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but that's my opinion. Again, you cross a line when you start distributing your copies to other people, but as long as it's for your personal use and is used to get around technological incompatibilities, I don't view it as stealing and therefore have no problem helping others convert their outdated dvd libraries into modern files playable on today's diskless computers. On Dec 29, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote:
> My sword also drawn, well sharpened and at the ready. What's right is right: > and, what's wrong is wrong. Not to mention which, I believe the mod has > made it very abundantly clear that the stealing of intellectual property by > any on this list WILL, NOT Be, tolerated. > > Nor even the discussion of it. > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Ray, >> I am not sure where to start besides thanks...ahem because you are blind you >> are entitled to stolen property? There is a regulation that says >> this...where? >> A bit humorously, but this is not a blindness thing so to speak, of anything >> is a blindness thing. >> Unfortunately it is a human disorder, i. e. because I feel disadvantaged for >> <fill in reason> my back ground income level, skin, gender whatever I have >> decided divides me from the rest of humanity, I can claim the right to all >> sorts of things belonging too others because I am entitled. >> The same argument is made for other sorts of stealing, from cheating on a >> spouse to shop lifting, and it is equally misguided. >> to keep this on point, I suppose some forget that Apple staff are rumored to >> read this list? >> and I feel sure they would love to know others here are using their >> creativity to steal from hard working professionals. >> Kare with her shoes on but her intellectual property sword drawn smiles. >> >> >> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> I totally second what Karen says here. Frankly, it's the attitude on the >>> part of some blind people that just because they're blind, they have the >>> right to steal copy right protected material makes me want to vomit!!! >>> Nothing gives anybody the right to Steal like that. I don't care if it's a >>> physical store, a DVD or what ever. When you buy a DVD or CD, or even a >>> download, all you have is the right to the individual private use of that >>> intellectual property. You DO, NOT, OWN, that intellectual property. That >>> is the work of someone else: and, unless that someone else specifically >>> gives you the right to make further use or to further distribute that >>> intellectual property, , it IS, NOT, yours to do with as you will. The >>> only thing you own is the physical medium on which that intellectual >>> property happens to reside. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! >>> >>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Half a moment. >>>> Mod alert before this thread goes any further. >>>> You actually expect people to guide you towards stealing property here? >>>> Just as bad as the other thread recently telling someone how to seal >>>> movies from the vault of stolen material the mice gives away. >>>> I trust a mod will prevent this before it gets out of hand. >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Kliphton wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, what apps do people use to remove copyright protection from DVD's so >>>>> it >>>>> can be ripped? 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