Yep, I agree 100%. this approach sends the wrong message to the "mainstream" world, by implying that they either can't or don't need to make their products accessible to us. And also enables disabled people to say they can't fully participate in things because they have to have all these special services, equipment, etc. It also short-changes us by giving us the illusion that we have something that is empowering while really it's just separating us from the rest of the world. And as for the notion of being able to dial 611 and get a question about JAWS answered, there are lots of other places where one can get answers to those sorts of questions if people just take the time to learn where to look. Donna
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christine Grassman <[email protected]> wrote: > Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those > phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it > possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping > the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and > services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized > goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, > employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level. > Christine > > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is >> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones. >> Original message: >>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems pretty >>> pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range of >>> experiences available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on earth >>> do we need a special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, rather than >>> expecting to be included in available services. >> >>> Christine >>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
