I predict, it will not even rise an inch. On 2013-06-07, at 11:33 AM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, Mike, if the response of this list is any indication, that third party > effort will faulter very soon: that is, assuming it even gets off the ground. > > > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:54 PM, "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, > Commtech LLC" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> All that I am trying to say, is that if they want to try to do this company, >> and experiment with how well there is a response to their services, then >> that is up to them. It is up to the consumer, or us, that determines whether >> or not this is going to be a successful business venture or not. >> >> Michael Babcock >> Marketing and Sales Manager >> Commtech LLC >> Web: http://commtechusa.net >> phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704 >> Fax: (480) 535-7649 >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Quite correct I'd say. It seems like what's happening here is that most of >>> us seem to feel this seperate carrier business just is a waste of time. >>> What's wrong with putting out a little effort to get what you want or need? >>> >>> >>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yep, I agree 100%. this approach sends the wrong message to the >>>> "mainstream" world, by implying that they either can't or don't need to >>>> make their products accessible to us. And also enables disabled people to >>>> say they can't fully participate in things because they have to have all >>>> these special services, equipment, etc. It also short-changes us by >>>> giving us the illusion that we have something that is empowering while >>>> really it's just separating us from the rest of the world. And as for the >>>> notion of being able to dial 611 and get a question about JAWS answered, >>>> there are lots of other places where one can get answers to those sorts of >>>> questions if people just take the time to learn where to look. >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christine Grassman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those >>>>> phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it >>>>> possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company >>>>> helping the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our >>>>> goods and services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require >>>>> marginalized goods and services as well, which has ramifications for >>>>> education, employment, recreation, and integration into our communities >>>>> at every level. >>>>> Christine >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is >>>>>> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones. >>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems >>>>>>> pretty pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range >>>>>>> of experiences available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on >>>>>>> earth do we need a special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, >>>>>>> rather than expecting to be included in available services. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Christine >>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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