I have not even read the thread. separate never never passes for equal.
The very suggestion that such a thing is needful is so disturbing on so
many levels I cannot begin to count them all.
I echo the statement in principle below if not in language...I do not do us
verses them stuff smiles.
Kare
On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, [email protected] wrote:
Hi folks,
I don't even have to read the article to know it's a bad idea. We as a blind community have
strived to assimilate ourselves in to normal society, through accessibility of mainstream
products. I don't even like the idea of large print phone keypads. The keypad within itself
is uniform & not hard to learn as a young child. Any carrier, who feels the need to
market itself solely to the blind community is a direct slap in the face to Apple, Android,
& other smaller companies who have created accessible equipment for us. It would be a
definite step backward. I hope the ignorant creators of this outlandish idea follow lists
such as this one & others to guage reaction.
Pam Francis
On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, Mike, if the response of this list is any indication, that third party
effort will faulter very soon: that is, assuming it even gets off the ground.
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:54 PM, "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech
LLC" <[email protected]> wrote:
All that I am trying to say, is that if they want to try to do this company,
and experiment with how well there is a response to their services, then that
is up to them. It is up to the consumer, or us, that determines whether or not
this is going to be a successful business venture or not.
Michael Babcock
Marketing and Sales Manager
Commtech LLC
Web: http://commtechusa.net
phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
Fax: (480) 535-7649
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
Quite correct I'd say. It seems like what's happening here is that most of us
seem to feel this seperate carrier business just is a waste of time. What's
wrong with putting out a little effort to get what you want or need?
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
Yep, I agree 100%. this approach sends the wrong message to the "mainstream"
world, by implying that they either can't or don't need to make their products accessible
to us. And also enables disabled people to say they can't fully participate in things
because they have to have all these special services, equipment, etc. It also
short-changes us by giving us the illusion that we have something that is empowering
while really it's just separating us from the rest of the world. And as for the notion
of being able to dial 611 and get a question about JAWS answered, there are lots of other
places where one can get answers to those sorts of questions if people just take the time
to learn where to look.
Donna
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christine Grassman <[email protected]> wrote:
Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those phones.
Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it possible for
companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping the visually
impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and services accessible. This
perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized goods and services as well, which
has ramifications for education, employment, recreation, and integration into our
communities at every level.
Christine
On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is provided
by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
Original message:
Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems pretty
pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range of experiences
available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on earth do we need a
special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, rather than expecting to be
included in available services.
Christine
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
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