Oh, Krister, don't get me started on this or I'll go on a rant and never get off. I'll suffice to say that it's happened to me too, and Oh it irks me. The only reason I'm skillful is because I've worked at it. If you don't want to work at it that's fine, but then just own it. Donna On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, > Finally someone who sees this my way. > Christine, i couldn't have said it better myself. The more specialty things > we get or ask for, the harder it gets for someone who uses say an I-device to > claim that it works very well for blind and visually impaired persons. I've > had it that when i have tried to discuss some technical issue with a > blindness specific gadget in a meaningful way, other blind folks have said > "Hush you're not representative" meaning i'm too skillful and that ain't no > joke, it has happened. > /Krister > > 7 jun 2013 kl. 18:13 skrev Christine Grassman <[email protected]>: > >> Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those >> phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it >> possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping >> the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and >> services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized >> goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, >> employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level. >> Christine >> >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is >>> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones. >>> Original message: >>>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems pretty >>>> pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range of >>>> experiences available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on earth >>>> do we need a special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, rather than >>>> expecting to be included in available services. >>> >>>> Christine >>>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget >>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
