Quite correct I'd say. It seems like what's happening here is that most of us seem to feel this seperate carrier business just is a waste of time. What's wrong with putting out a little effort to get what you want or need?
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote: > Yep, I agree 100%. this approach sends the wrong message to the "mainstream" > world, by implying that they either can't or don't need to make their > products accessible to us. And also enables disabled people to say they can't > fully participate in things because they have to have all these special > services, equipment, etc. It also short-changes us by giving us the illusion > that we have something that is empowering while really it's just separating > us from the rest of the world. And as for the notion of being able to dial > 611 and get a question about JAWS answered, there are lots of other places > where one can get answers to those sorts of questions if people just take the > time to learn where to look. > Donna > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Christine Grassman <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those >> phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it >> possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping >> the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and >> services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized >> goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, >> employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level. >> Christine >> >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is >>> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones. >>> Original message: >>>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems pretty >>>> pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range of >>>> experiences available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on earth >>>> do we need a special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, rather than >>>> expecting to be included in available services. >>> >>>> Christine >>>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget >>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
