Also, when performing these mouse functions, I find that full-screen mode gives you much better control.
Hth, Teresa "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."--Groucho Marx On Oct 28, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Just go up in value a little. This is just to make sure that the splitter is > moving properly and that the mouse will respond. When using VO to move the > splitter, it often won’t let you go all the way to 100% anyway. After you’ve > moved it 5 or 10%, then use VO-cmd-f5 to bring mouse focus to the VO cursor, > then do the press and drag down thing. VO should announce “Scroll area” if > it worked. It’s not extremely important where you start the drag from, but > it’s best to do so from the top half of the Trackpad so that you have lots of > drag space. > > Later… > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ah, okay. >> >> AS for the tool bar, I discovered that I had curser tracking off and I fixed >> that. >> >> Now, with respect to the value in the horizontal spliter, should I go down >> or up in value? I find that if I go up in value, and I hit about 87 >> percent, mail suddenly goes busy and I wind up being able to do nothing so I >> quit it. Maybe go down to zero in the value and then try the track pad >> thingy? >> >> This almost seems to be a half baked cookie, in a way. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Oct 28, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ray, >>> >>> I believe that Alex received the initial instructions from an Apple Support >>> person. I more or less used some of those instructions along with my own >>> experience to come up with my instructions. I, like Alex, had everything >>> the way it should be after my update to Mavericks and then decided to do >>> some testing after seeing some of the frustration expressed on this list. >>> Being the cocky person that I am, I thought I’d have no problems. Stupid >>> me. After lots of fussing, some assistance from my sighted wife, and some >>> investigation on the web, I determined that this is an issue for sighted >>> folks too. >>> >>> So, I was able to fix things using the steps I outlined after some time and >>> frustration. The messed up view where your ToolBar is in an odd location >>> is usually fixed after quitting and re-opening Mail. I’m wondering if you >>> could add an extra step into this that might help it to work for you. When >>> you’ve navigated to the Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it, then move >>> with VO-up or VO-down. VO should announce percentage values relating to >>> the size of the Preview pane. Now use VO-cmd-f5 to route the mouse to the >>> VO location, then perform the drag down of the Horizontal Splitter to see >>> if it works for you. Also, for accuracy sake, take a look in your VO >>> settings under the Visuals section, make sure that your VO Cursor >>> magnification is set to 1. This should make sure that the mouse is going >>> where it’s supposed to. >>> >>> HTH. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Okay, >>>> >>>> After fooling with the instructions to get rid of the preview pain, it’s >>>> still there. >>>> >>>> Problem seems to be that I just cannot get rid of the damn horizontal >>>> splitter and make it go to the botton of the mail window. >>>> >>>> Now, when I open mail, (in standard view) I land on my mail box table and >>>> find that as I arrow message to message, it tells me that the message is >>>> selected. This would seem to indicate that preview pain is still on. >>>> Would I be better off getting rid of the mail preferences file and jus >>>> rebuilding the account from scratch? IF so, I cannot seem to find the >>>> mail prefs file in Library/Preferences. Seems to me there’s got to be a >>>> better way than this. >>>> >>>> Here’s exactly what I did. >>>> >>>> 1. Hide tool bar and favorites bar also. >>>> >>>> 2. Pressed zoom. >>>> >>>> 3. Go in to the prefs window and select for classic view. >>>> >>>> 4. Came out of prefs window and noticed that the horizontal splitter was >>>> just imedately to the right of the message table. >>>> >>>> 5. Next, I pressed VO+CMD+F5 to rout the track pad mouse directly to that >>>> spliter. >>>> >>>> 6. Next, pressed down on top of track pad making sure that it clicked >>>> when pressed and held finger there. >>>> >>>> 7. With finger still on track pad, slide finger down till I could move it >>>> no longer. Heard nothing change. >>>> >>>> 8. I then let off the track pad. >>>> >>>> 9. Now, When I check again, I notice that the horizontal spliter is still >>>> right next to the message table. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now, I’m almost at the end of my rope with this. >>>> >>>> Did you call >>>> 1800-692-7753 >>>> to solve this or did you call the special accessibility number? >>>> >>>> I guess I’ll have to pay for the support since my Apple care is up. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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