Hello,

A couple things here, you are not forced to use iClouds key chain feature.  
Actually, it’s disabled by default.  And I could be mistaken but, that writers 
Apple ID was hacked via social engineering, not a actual hack as it were.


Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 21, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Tim, all.
> I subscribe to a weekly newsletter from about.com specifically focused on the 
>  mac  and ios.  what I read is that absolutely everyone has concerns serious 
> security concerns about this use of icloud.  Particularly noted in maverick 
> is the Keychain, which fortunately has to be turned on.  Still it gives a 
> fine example of just how easy the risks can be.  you are given a 4 digit 
> number for the security, and there are only 1000 possible combinations making 
> it practically effortless for someone to reach your passwords credit card 
> information, documents contacts, and anything else you use icloud for.
> I still remember the senior writer with wired magazine who got hacked and all 
> of his family photos and  personal data  wiped because someone on twitter 
> liked his handle and could do it for kicks.  I respect that the Internet is 
> basically cheese cloth  in general, but one should have a choice.  More and 
> more places like amazon are taking the force into icloud approach because 
> everyone is doing it.
> Individuals should be able to protect  and store their information as they 
> prefer, not as a trend dictates in my view.
> Add that if you use facebook, your contacts are lifted when they make a 
> shadow profile on you, including people not on facebook at all.
> just my take,
> By the way, the mac newsletter of Tom Nelson is rather informative actually.  
> apple general I mean.
> Kare
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I use Cloud services for just about everything.  Google Apps is a Cloud 
>> service, DropBox is a Cloud service and Apple’s iCloud is a Cloud service.  
>> Even Carbonite is a Cloud backup service.  In my opinion, these are safe and 
>> secure options.  Sure there are likely ways of hacking into some of this 
>> stuff, but then again, just about everything on the Net has the possibility 
>> of being intercepted in some manner or another, even when you’re simply 
>> surfing. or sending eMails.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Documents aren't just for files, though, they are for apps. For instance, 
>>> if you have an app that supports iCloud on two iOS devices, that app can 
>>> use iCloud to sync data between them so that the app is the same on both. 
>>> That's the "data" part of the Documents and Data setting.
>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just use iCloud for contacts and calendars as well. There is no need to 
>>>> put documents in the cloud since there is dropbox! I am using Siri to 
>>>> dictate this message.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my I phone
>>>> 
>>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 06:14 pm, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I didn’t have to teach VoiceOver, I wouldn’t have upgraded to 
>>>>> Mavericks. I don’t like iCloud either, but it’s become inescapable for 
>>>>> someone who uses both a Mac and an iPhone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I restrict my use of iCloud to contacts and calendars which I share with 
>>>>> my husband. I never use it for documents.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 18:52, Daniel McGee <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all, really want to update to Mavericks but this new OS is really 
>>>>>> making it so hard to do so.
>>>>>> This article will explain why.
>>>>>> Basically, I have no interest or intention of using the service so 
>>>>>> unfortunately where does that leave me.
>>>>>> P.S.
>>>>>> I hope I'm not the only one.
>>>>>> In particular, really concerned about syncing contacts
>>>>>> Guess you could say I'm paranoid about my contact data up in space.
>>>>>> Link to the article is below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/27/5035276/for-ios-users-avoiding-icloud-gets-harder-with-mavericks
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