Hi Sebin , > >You say, you are interested in localization and then whine when someone uses >vernacular >language? I suppose, Kochi is not the HQ of Britain. So what the >hell, if someone uses >Malayalam? > I am a software developer and i was interested in the post from a software compatibility point of view. i was closely following the thread and use of malayalam ( with inadvertant use of big fonts - i could not understand that was also part of the problem. That prompted me to use the "Shouting" term. ) hampered my comprehension. >Praseed wrote >For technical communication , i think English is a better language. > >Sebin wrote >Its just a perception. You may be comfortable in English. Not me though. So >whenever, I >want to explain a point to my satisfaction, I would use my mother >tongue. It is not my >fault that, somebody living in this part of the world >doesn't know or even doesn't care about >the native dialect. > I do agree that to convey deepest feeling , every one ought to use their mother tongue. The latter part of the prose shows your "Lingustic" adamancy. My mother tongue is konkani , should i use that for communication here after ? I am not interested because , to earn a good living , the use of English language for public communication is a must. Once you have mastered english , for most people love for their native language is a facade. ( if we meet in person , we can talk about it ) > >If you did pass a malayalam 2nd paper in school, that itself makes it clear >that, you know >to at least read and comprehend. Then why and what is this >fuzz about? > When you have got a beautiful language with 26 alphabets and words heavily borrowed from all other major languages , it will be the best language for technical communication. From a emotional perspective , using the native language is better. I assume Technical stuff do not posses emotions > > I agree. But should I take it for granted that, every grand dady in this >forum is a Keats or >a Shelly? If you could not understand, its just fine. You >could ask politely for it. Is it that ?>every Gnu/Linux user in Kochi are >proficient in English? > My statement had two parts a) Why can't you explain in English ? It is a personal request b) It seems like shouting to me Mahesh aravind cleared the confusion here by bringing in the issue of large fonts ( inadvertant use by Tom ) When you read it together , i might have offended your "feeling" . Pls. do remember that i also "gave" a "stick" for you to beat me ! > >@Praveen >When you were replying to Mahesh Aravind , i happen to see you coming up with >>excellent english prose. So , i think you should do some soul searching for >your Linguistic >"chavunism". I assume either you are a swathanthra malayalam >computing fellow or a >DTP person. > I mentioned SMC because , it is natural for every human to be more emotional with the cause they are after. In kerala , there is a implicit "expectation" from everybody that "One should practice what they preach". so , Writing in malayalam becomes a (implied )compulsion to be a proponent of SMC ( That is true for every political cause. ). I Like the SMC initiative because it might be useful for some to overcome the technical "barrier". The implementors will learn a lot about language encoding which might help them to earn a better living. I saw a great initiative from Tripunithara school some time back in localizing a software ( I forgot his name , he comes to our usergroup ). The down side is It might lessen the motivation to learn English and it will be their road to "poverty" @all This was Linux user group once. Now it has become Libre user group. Most probably people like Sebin will bring in the usage of Malayalam as the "official language" into this ,using a post like that of mine as a pretext. Freedom and the love for their native language , there is a inherent paradox if you look deep. Why shoud we mix both ? So in future we might come across this Let posts be in English. if some one wants to do "private" communication , they have got the freedom to use their mother tongue. In this case , Malayalam should be given importance as it is the primary language of most of the people here. You can also post in Hindi , Swahili , Oriya and Bengali etc , if you wish.
@Sebin You opened a stuff which every one ( at least me! ) in this forum thought as a closed issue. if you get some gratification by scoring some brownie points by unleashing this "terror" (aka rude words ) , you are given the permission. My only request is on a chance encounter , you should not get physical. regards Praseed Pai http://praseedp.blogspot.com living. --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Sebin Jacob <[email protected]> wrote: From: Sebin Jacob <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ASCII support for Malayalam chars in GNU/Linux system To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 3:32 PM On 8 September 2010 11:59, Praseed Pai <[email protected]> wrote: Hi all , I did not understand the stuff ( fully) after this particular series of post switched to malayalam. I am having great interest in Software internationalization and Localization and was following the post with great interest. You say, you are interested in localization and then whine when someone uses vernacular language? I suppose, Kochi is not the HQ of Britain. So what the hell, if someone uses Malayalam? For technical communication , i think English is a better language. Its just a perception. You may be comfortable in English. Not me though. So whenever, I want to explain a point to my satisfaction, I would use my mother tongue. It is not my fault that, somebody living in this part of the world doesn't know or even doesn't care about the native dialect. That is the reason i made a remark. I have studied Hindi, Sanskrit and special english in my school days. With great difficulty , i had to pass a malayalam 2nd paper during my school days. If you did pass a malayalam 2nd paper in school, that itself makes it clear that, you know to at least read and comprehend. Then why and what is this fuzz about? All people in this forum are not conversant in malayalam as some of them may have settled here from other parts of the world. I agree. But should I take it for granted that, every grand dady in this forum is a Keats or a Shelly? If you could not understand, its just fine. You could ask politely for it. Is it that every Gnu/Linux user in Kochi are proficient in English? @Praveen When you were replying to Mahesh Aravind , i happen to see you coming up with excellent english prose. So , i think you should do some soul searching for your Linguistic "chavunism". I assume either you are a swathanthra malayalam computing fellow or a DTP person. എത്രമാത്രം പുച്ഛത്തോടെയാണു് നിങ്ങള് സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിനെ കാണുന്നതു്? I feel ashamed of you. ( I do agree that the kind of things i do influence my world view as well ) Hope this clarifies my position ! I wrote this only because, your clarification roused more questions than answers. I know I am rude here and I am deliberately rude. Sebin -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #[email protected]
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