I can understand the desire to do it, but ... in a forum such as this, yer 
gonna have to get around to giving us the real data sooner or later, so I'd 
suggest providing it at the outset, just because.

Aloha,
Michael.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Barnum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:59 PM
To: Michael Wise <[email protected]>
Cc: David Sgro, Dataspindle <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mailop] Confused by bounce

Thanks Michael. Just my habit of obfuscating domains with example.com. Probably 
counter-productive here.

-Terry

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Michael Wise <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  
> Dunno whether this is serious or not, what with the reference to example.com 
> and all, but if it is ...
> I draw your attention to the SPF record’s single clause.
> If this was a test, it was poorly chosen.
>  
> $ host -t txt example.com
> example.com descriptive text "v=spf1 -all"
>  
> Aloha,
> Michael.
> --
> Michael J Wise
> Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
> "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
> Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailop [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Sgro, 
> Dataspindle
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:26 AM
> To: Terry Barnum <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Confused by bounce
>  
> Possibly a manual blacklist by that domain?
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailop [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry Barnum
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:02 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [mailop] Confused by bounce
>  
> If we send email to a specific gmail user we receive a bounce from Hotmail 
> saying it can't deliver due to our DMARC policy. Postfix logs show the email 
> being delivered and accepted by gmail. Email to other gmail users goes 
> through fine.
>  
> Postfix delivery-
> Nov 14 18:12:00 mail.example.com postfix/smtp[7000]: 3tHrVm0qyVzKk7bl: 
> to=<[email protected]>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.203.26]:25, 
> delay=0.76, delays=0.02/0.01/0.48/0.24, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 
> 1479175920 p62si24555443pfi.27 - gsmtp)
>  
> Bounce-
> Reporting-MTA: dns;BLU004-OMC4S37.hotmail.com
> Received-From-MTA: dns;NAM04-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com
> Arrival-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 18:12:05 -0800
>  
> Final-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.5.0
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from example.com is not 
> accepted due to domain's
> 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact the administrator of example.com 
> domain if
> 550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail. Please visit
> 550-5.7.1  
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.google.com%2Fmail%2Fanswer%2F2451690&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7Ce518fcb88cc74cb11d2b08d40d8e5c00%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636148352462936043&sdata=Tp0ESIrlQCEezqrPx6Dea3leznKOTfJZTh07%2B0iGTyw%3D&reserved=0
>  to learn about the
> 550 5.7.1 DMARC initiative. xz8si20469041pab.182 - gsmtp
>  
> I'm confused as to how this can happen. Could the gmail user be forwarding 
> received email to a hotmail account and then back to gmail, breaking DMARC?
>  
> Thanks,
> -Terry
>  
> Terry Barnum
> digital OutPost
> Carlsbad, CA
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