Didn't Google mention they wanted the age of the keys to count in the spam
score?

Old keys tend to have a longer timeframe to get stolen I guess. Maybe a
frequent key changes is an indicator of having good ops practices which
result in fewer incidents? Funny enough, I have only ever met one customer
that wanted to refresh its 1024 bit keys.

Yours,


David

On 10 October 2017 at 05:15, Benjamin BILLON via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> > Do you?
> In the way I tried to express it, yes.
> Gmail recently said that the selector, or the change of the selector, can
> have a role in their anti-spam and reputation system. Just because it's an
> element of the email, and that it can indicate something.
> It is not used for _reputation_ in its purest, simpliest form (value of d=
> is good, value of d=is bad), but it is one of the thousands thinks that
> might have a non-null, even if negligible, weight in the whole system.
> Soooo, technically,an ISP's scientist or even just tech guy, won't say
> that these elements are not part of the reputation system. But the public
> should understand "nope, they're not".
> I don't know if the other main ISPs include s= or other things in their
> decision system, I believe they do. Maybe tomorrow they won't. And the day
> after tomorrow, they will again.
>
> That being said, the main point is that if you have deliverability issues,
> probably related to the reputation of a domain name, the incidence of s= or
> the public key are not the first things to worry about. Lack of consent,
> irrelevant content, bad list hygiene and too much communication pressure
> are by far the first causes of problems.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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> Benjamin
>
> 2017-10-10 10:56 GMT+08:00 John Levine <jo...@taugh.com>:
>
>> In article <CAJGB_dF0U7dLCtVbU8q0BvhHUpf-72Bq=2trx07_pvl82nn...@mail.gm
>> ail.com> you write:
>> >ISPs might consider the change of s= or key as an element being part of
>> >their reputation systems and metrics.
>>
>> If they do they are egregiously failing to do what the DKIM spec says
>> they should, and I don't know any ISP that does that.
>>
>> Do you?
>>
>> It is crystal clear in the spec that selectors are for key management,
>> not reputation.  If you want mail streams with different reputation,
>> use different subdomains in the d= tag.
>>
>>
>> R's,
>> John
>>
>
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