> Il 21/01/2021 15:03 Jim Popovitch via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> ha scritto: > > Neither of those situations describe the reality of what uceprotect is > doing. They are saying that if you choose to operate in a shady area,
The problem here is that they are defining on their own the criteria to identify a shady area, in a way that is different from everyone else's (there are no other blocklists listing these IPs all at once, and these providers abide by all applicable laws and are normally considered cheap but reputable, not "shady" at all), and then deciding on their own that this is worth listing all their customers, and doing all of this in a way that maximizes their revenues, by blocking millions of IPs that no one else is blocking and then asking for substantial money to each of their users. This creates such a big conflict of interest that voids the credibility of their work. It's not by chance that this behaviour is explicitly forbidden in RFC 6471. > Il 21/01/2021 15:56 Paul Smith via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> ha scritto: > > I suspect some hosting providers aren't as diligent (possibly because > they charge so little that they can't afford staff to handle it, > possibly because they don't care as long as they are paid) My experience with my current VPS provider (Contabo) is that they are very responsive, much more than one would expect given how little I pay them. I never spammed or had my server cracked so I do not know how well they behave in that case, but I have a hard time to think that "they don't care". These statements should be supported with facts, not just by setting an arbitrarily low threshold of listed IPs to claim that the entire ISP is bad (and maybe, when revenues are lower than desired, lower the threshold again and so on). -- Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange vittorio.bert...@open-xchange.com Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
