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Dear Elfess Rose Of course those in the Northern hemisphere assume Santa lives at the North Pole. But does he? After all the North Pole is only a European construct, on a seasonal ice platform. Talk about arguing with no foundation! On the other hand, Antarctica is a landmass covered by solid water. (I will admit there are two layers....but the land did not slip itself under the ice-sheet...I think) If you were Santa where would you base yourself? Perhaps the North Pole story is a clever strategy to direct inquisitive people away from the real truth... Or perhaps we are responding to an ever-elaborate scheme to construct a "new" truth from nothing. A fellow elf from Santa's business base tells me that in the software industry this is called vapour-ware. Happy New Year from the first elves in the world to celebrate it! Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on > Behalf Of Rose Zgodzinski > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:33 AM > To: Discussion group for map history > Subject: Re: [MapHist] Santa - another message (The reality check, > please) > > > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're > replying to the whole list) > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o > + o + o + > > Dear Elf, > Do you mean that we have to assume your position- New Zealand? the > southern hemisphere? > or more probably to Santa's liking-the South Pole? > How will Santa prove that the North Pole was vacant during the time of > the alleged sleigh-ride? > No shadows cast? anywhere in the North Pole-my best guess, > but really it is still all such a mystery. > > Rose > (in Canada) > > Happy New Year to all elves > > > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 12:37 AM, Michael Ross wrote: > > > This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying > > to the whole list) > > o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + > > o + o + > > > > Santa > > > > How come you could not read my mind? > > > > And how come you have not worked out that this discussion revolves > > around > > how I see the world. > > > > Sharpen-up! > > > > Another upset Elf. > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on > >> Behalf Of James Enterline > >> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 5:28 PM > >> To: Discussion group for map history > >> Subject: Re: [MapHist] The reality check, please > >> > >> > >> This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're > >> replying to the whole list) > >> o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o > >> + o + o + > >> > >> Kirsten, you have misunderstood what I was talking about. Anyone > >> entering this discussion who was completely familiar with the > >> scenario we have been examining (Appendix of my 2002 book) would > >> realize that the brush in question is the brush applying the bleach > >> to the back of the tissue. If I should have made this clearer, then > >> I apologize But really, give me some credit for being a little > >> sharper than you imply. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> At 05:37 PM 12/30/2009, you wrote: > >>> This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying > >>> to the whole list) > >>> o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + > >> o + o + o + > >>> Fellow MapHisters, > >>> > >>> An interest in maps, new or old, generally includes some interest in > >>> the technique by which a given map came into existence. On that > >>> score, a seriously misleading comment by James Enterline in his > >>> latest Vinland Map posting needs pointing out before it becomes > >>> part of the map's increasingly twisted lore. > >>> > >>> In the conclusion to his December 29 message, Enterline wrote (with > >>> regard to the much discussed "glitch" in the ink line in the > >> Welsh region ): > >>> > >>>> It's as though some force had pulled the carbon back away from > >>>> the edge before it had a chance to dry completely. Maybe a bubble > >>>> or variation of pressure from the brush. Lifting it up -- even a > >>>> bristle or two from a twist of the wrist --could create a slight > >>>> suction, pulling the edges back toward the center again. > >>> > >>> Please note that the Vinland Map was drawn and lettered with a pen, > >>> not with a brush. Whether the pen was a quill pen (which people > >>> knew how to shape also in the twentieth century), or a steel nib, > >>> may be difficult to determine, but in either case the point of a pen > >>> is always shaped to hold a bit of ink after dipping and to disperse > >>> it under slight pressure. Painting and lettering with a brush > >>> would have produced a very different result from anything seen in > >>> the Vinland Map. > >>> > >>> Happy New Year! > >>> > >>> Kirsten A. Seaver > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography > >>> hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. > >>> The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of > >>> the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of > >>> Utrecht. 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