This topic should probably have a thread of its own. --Jean

On 15/05/2013, at 10:05, Jean Weber <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15/05/2013, at 7:54, Marc Paré <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> As a point of discussion on the printing of .pdf's from .odt:
>> 
>> I was hoping to promote our .odt file format and hope that the people who 
>> download and print brochures would decide on their own to create the .pdf 
>> brochure should they see a need for doing so. This way, we would be assured 
>> that the person(s) would at least be using an ODF-compatible wordprocessor.
>> 
>> This is more of a philosophical view of posting our materials and less of 
>> practicality. Does it make it more difficult to print out our brochures? 
>> Well yes, if you consider that some may just download the .pdf version and 
>> go to print with Adobe Reader or another .pdf reader, and, not even bother 
>> having a version of LibreOffice on their system. But IMO, I would then 
>> rather see people use LibreOffice or another .odt compatible wordprocessor 
>> do the work. This will at least ensure that our product and format stand out 
>> as a good solid and professional working format from which to work. It would 
>> help in establishing the ODF standard as a gold standard in office formats.
>> 
>> We need to start displacing the .pdf format and we, the juggernaut that we 
>> are, are well placed to do this; there are really only 2 elephants in the 
>> room left and its LibreOffice and MSO.
>> 
>> We can't keep saying that the ODF standard is the best of office suite 
>> standards and then make use of the Adobe .pdf file to print our products. We 
>> are well placed to encourage/influence more printing houses to host 
>> LibreOffice solutions on their premises for printing purposes. The first 
>> question users should say to their printing houses is "Do you 
>> service/support LibreOffice ODF printing?" If the demand is there, the 
>> service will follow. By continuing to make use of .pdf formats, we are 
>> diminishing the demand of service for our own product.
>> 
>> We use LibreOffice in-house for our production work and we know it's 
>> strength as a serious work tool.
>> 
>> IMO, we should start making our influence felt where we can. This will also 
>> strengthen our product with groups who are considering adoption of our suite 
>> as they will see our resolve to make the ODF formats more of the office 
>> format standard of choice.
>> 
>> Marc
> 
> Two points:
> 
> I travel with an iPad. I can download and print a PDF using the iPad. I 
> cannot (yet) run LO on my iPad. When LO is available on Android, that will 
> help other tablet users -- but not us iPad users. I don't think we should let 
> ideology get in the way of practicality.
> 
> Also, I am of the camp that says, don't give people an editable file (from 
> any office suite or DTP program) unless you want them to be able to edit it. 
> I would *never* give an editable file to a printer, if I can possibly avoid 
> it, lest they accidentally change something.
> 
> --Jean

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