I propose LibreOffice Dynamic Community Edition


Régis Perdreau



Le lun. 9 nov. 2020 à 19:21, Telesto <[email protected]> a écrit :

> LibreOffice Tech Edition [Technology/Technical/ Technology Preview]
> LibreOffice Free Edition
> LibreOffice Engineering Edition
> LibreOffice Frontrunner Edition
>
> Basic also feels limited. Classic sounds old.
> Community/Personal are not it
> Rolling doesn't sound well (still think it should be mentioned
> somewhere; but not as edition phrase)
>
> --
> About position of the edition text: title bar, about box, start center,
> artwork etc.
> No strong opinion here; as long as they as long as it blends in. Nice
> font, font color etc.
>
>
> Op 9-11-2020 om 16:38 schreef sophi:
> > Hi Italo, all,
> > Le 09/11/2020 à 16:04, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
> >> So far, I have not participated to the discussion, hoping that this
> >> could help others in pushing forward their proposals. Unfortunately,
> >> this has not happened, so I am trying to share some thoughts and
> >> proposals for the following action item:
> >>
> >> 1. Product Label for the community supported version provided by TDF
> >>
> >> First of all, it should be clear that this label is not targeted to
> >> community members, but to the outside world of LibreOffice users (so,
> >> probably to 99.9% of all users). Rejecting a label because it is not
> >> seen as appropriate for community members is not helping the decision,
> >> because we need to improve the positioning for all those people who do
> >> not contribute at all to the project (apart from donations, which are
> >> not seen as contributions for this decision).
> >>
> >> The unfortunate reality is that the majority of enterprises is using
> >> LibreOffice for free - is their right, but they usually save a rather
> >> substantial amount of money by replacing MS Office licenses with
> >> LibreOffice - without giving back anything, while they should support
> >> the project at least in the same proportion of individuals who donate
> >> (because they recognize the value of the software).
> >>
> >> So, we need to exert some moral suasion on enterprises by making it
> >> clear - with a label - that the LibreOffice version they are using is
> >> not targeted to enterprises, as it is not supported professionally, or
> >> it is not packaged according to the needs of enterprises deploying
> >> LibreOffice on a large number of PCs.
> >>
> >> Proposals in line with the objective:
> >>
> >> COMMUNITY: makes the Community happy, but does not communicate to users
> >> the right message, as Community is the feature-limited version of open
> >> core projects (best case, competent users or 1% of all users), or the
> >> organization where you treat addictions (worst case, or 98.9% of all
> >> users). IMHO not applicable.
> >>
> >> PERSONAL: does not make the Community happy because Personal is not
> >> interpreted in the right way by OSS advocates (Personal as in personal
> >> computer or personal productivity), on the contrary is rather clear for
> >> users outside the community ("I can use it for free on my PC"), and is
> >> providing the right message to enterprises (by the way, a label will not
> >> stop anyone from using LibreOffice for free on hundreds or thousands of
> >> PCs, but will give us a reason for a strong message). IMHO the best.
> >>
> >> ROLLING: Rolling is a techie term for OSS advocates, based on several
> >> Linux distros, although not popular amongst users provides a feeling of
> >> something which is not perfectly stable, and as such could be used - but
> >> the deployment should be carefully studied - to provide a message for
> >> enterprises. IMHO sub-optimal but probably acceptable.
> >>
> >> CLASSIC: Classic is a typical branding term used by very large brands to
> >> label the "original" product, when there are variants available. As such
> >> it could work, although the message for enterprises should be carefully
> >> crafted and added. IMHO sub-optimal but probably acceptable.
> >>
> >> BASIC: this is the closest label to "home" or "unsupported", which were
> >> suggested by ecosystem members (but have a negative meaning which is not
> >> appropriate for a quality product such as LibreOffice), it is not the
> >> most elegant solution but it could be deployed with some extra care, and
> >> some specific message targeted to enterprises. IMHO the last resport, if
> >> nothing else works.
> >>
> >> Looking forward to other proposals, possibly with a rationale.
> > My proposal would be: Creative
> > Rationale is that:
> > - it has a positive connotation which expresses the creativity of the
> > community reflected in the product.
> > - Creative lets you feel that it's in progress, will go further by
> > iterations just like when you write a book, or design a painting. And
> > it's how is our release process compared to LTS.
> > - also, it mirrors CC in the way of making commons accessible to all.
> >
> >> Of course, please remember the planned meeting on Wednesday, November
> >> 11, at 2PM UTC.
> >>
> >> 2. Where to position the label: title bar, about box, start center
> >>
> >> I would like to get some ideas also for the positioning of the label. I
> >> am not sure that adding it to the Start Center would make a difference,
> >> because most users do not read what they have on the screen, and so the
> >> enterprises.
> >>
> >> Of course, we have to find a place where to add the label, in addition
> >> to the About Box (which is the natural place for it).
> > About box would be enough for me
> >> In any case, the effectiveness of the label will be related to the
> >> communication effort around it, which will be based on specific actions
> >> and messages. We will have to educate enetrprises, which are not trivial
> >> to educate as a target. On the other hand, if enterprises do not give
> >> something back to the project, the sustainability is at stake.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the long message, happy to read other contributions.
> > Just some thoughts :)
> > Cheers
> > Sophie
> >
>
>
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