It amazes me that this rubbish is considered the cornerstone of 20th century philosophy. From formalism to the censorship of thought. Ultrasophisticated juvenalia. I can see what Rosa--is Rosa really a she or really a Rosa or Lichtenstein?--sees in this. It prevents the self-reflection of a Brittrot sectarian.
On 12/30/2010 12:18 PM, Jim Farmelant wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:40:33 -0500 c b<cb31...@gmail.com> writes: >> Rosa, >> >> "Marxist" philosophy without theses ? Without theory ? > I think that claim has to be understood within the > context of Wittgensteinian philosophy. For > Wittgenstein the only genuine propositions > are those about the external world since > those are the only kinds of statements that > can be confirmed or disconfirmed. Therefore, > statements in mathematics and logic did not > qualify as genuine propositions in Wittgenstein's > view since they can be analyzed as being either tautologies > if true, or contradictions if false. As Wittenstein put it in the > Tractatus: > > ----------------- > 6.1 > The propositions of logic are tautologies. > 6.2 > Mathematics is a logical method. > The propositions of mathematics are equations, and therefore > pseudo-propositions. > > 6.3 > Logical research means the investigation of all regularity. And outside > logic all is accident. > 6.4 > All propositions are of equal value. > 6.5 > For an answer which cannot be expressed the question too cannot be > expressed. > The riddle does not exist. > > If a question can be put at all, then it can also be answered. > > Later on, Wittgenstein writes: > > The propositions of logic therefore say nothing. (They are the analytical > propositions.) > 6.12 > The fact that the propositions of logic are tautologies shows the formal > -- logical -- properties of language, of the world. > That its constituent parts connected together in this way give a > tautology characterizes the logic of its constituent parts. > > In order that propositions connected together in a definite way may give > a tautology they must have definite properties of structure. That they > give a tautology when so connected shows therefore that they possess > these properties of structure. > > 6.13 > Logic is not a theory but a reflexion of the world. > Logic is transcendental. > > > Later on also: > > 6.113 > It is the characteristic mark of logical propositions that one can > perceive in the symbol alone that they are true; and this fact contains > in itself the whole philosophy of logic. And so also it is one of the > most important facts that the truth or falsehood of non-logical > propositions can not be recognized from the propositions alone. > > And eventually: > > > 6.53 > The right method of philosophy would be this: To say nothing except what > can be said, i.e. the propositions of natural science, i.e. something > that has nothing to do with philosophy: and then always, when someone > else wished to say something metaphysical, to demonstrate to him that he > had given no meaning to certain signs in his propositions. This method > would be unsatisfying to the other -- he would not have the feeling that > we were teaching him philosophy -- but it would be the only strictly > correct method. > 6.54 > My propositions are elucidatory in this way: he who understands me > finally recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through > them, on them, over them. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, > after he has climbed up on it.) > He must surmount these propositions; then he sees the world rightly. > > > 7 > Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. > ---------------------------------- > > For Wittgenstein, propositions of philosophy > are pseudo-propositions. At worst they > nonsensical like the propositions of traditional > metaphysics. At best, they turn out to be > propositions of logical analysis which are > still a species of pseudopropositions. > Hence, that's why for Wittgenstein there > cannot be theses or theories in philosophy. > > >> CB >> >> >> http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/index.htm >> > _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
