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Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust <http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com> Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach <http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/> <http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism < [email protected]> wrote: Clinton is both a neoliberal (more inequality) and a neocon (more war); > Trump isn’t: > > Trump is a fascist and a white supremacists. He just finished the most racist speech I've ever heard from a major candidate, His campaign manager is tied to what has been called an evangelistic coup in the military and breaks bread with elements that think pogroms will be necessary to create the [white] America they want, and you want to argue Clinton is worst? You want to try putting that in terms that will win colored people to your position or don't you care? And explain to me how the Green Party will justify its stand if Trump wins because I think that will end any possibility of it being the basis of a multinational revolutionary party. Jill Stein is also seriously delusional to think we are in the revolution now and the Green party is already leading it, or that she could be elected president on Nov 8 - she tells a room of less than 100 in LA while Trump is spinning hate to thousands in PHX, and on TV. Jill Stein got ZERO bounce from her CNN appearance. How come? She appeals to no one outside of a self-isolated Left. Here's the latest Fox News Poll 2-way Clinton beats Trump by 6% down from 10% earlier. 4-way Trump 39% Clinton 41% Johnson 12% Stein 4% Clearly she is within closing distance, not of winning - her scheme to turn out 43 million new college votes before 11/8 is truly delusional, but of negating enough progressive votes, to hand the white house to the white nationalists that she is so fucking quiet about. Yes , emotions are involved. I just watched a hate filled speech from Trump and then a fb post of Jill Stein's LA talk [had to work - boss would let me off] SHE SAY NOTHING ABOUT TRUMP'S RACISM. Her fire is directed at Clinton. So excuse me if I don't suddenly get stupid and forget why I've been saying that "Leftists" who only criticize Assad's opposition while being silent on his crimes are objectively pro-Assad, and apply the same logic come away from Stein's talk concluding that she is objectively pro-Trump. Because - NEWS FLASH (break it to her gently) Jill Stein has NO CHANCE of being our next president. Trump or Clinton will be. Why would you expect or want working people to follow someone so delusional? [no wonder she got no CNN bounce] Basically, It doesn't seem like you don't feel the same hate coming from the Trump campaign that I do. You say Trump is not a neoliberal or a neocon, but what is he. Why exactly do you not feel as threatened by him as most black, Muslim and Latin people do? Clay _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
