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John is 100% right -- WE JUST DON'T KNOW --- (that's why sports teams play the games rather than award the trophy to the team with the best record going into the tournament!) -- THEREFORE, it is most appropriate that everybody vote for the person they like the best ---- and then work like Hell for WHOEVER the Dems choose ... On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:39 AM John Reimann <1999wild...@gmail.com> wrote: > Michael Meeropol is dealing with a different issue. Yes, many voters even > including former Republican voters, loathe and want to defeat Trump. That > was proven in the 2018 elections, which had a record turnout for a midterm > election. But that vote went to middle-of-the-road Democrats. Of the 41 > seats that were "flipped", every single one went to such Democrats. There > were a few seats that were considered winnable for Democrats in which a > Sanders-type candidate ran. Those seats weren't flipped. And so far, the > traditionally non-voting youth have not turned out to vote for Sanders in > any large numbers. > > This doesn't necessarily mean that it will be the same this November, or > even later in the primary season. It's possible that if the Berniemobile > gathers momentum, this will inspire this layer of traditional non-voters. > The point is that it has not done so until this point. > > Of course, if Sanders is the nominee we will see an avalanche of > red-baiting, as well as attacks on Medicare for all. The point is that this > could very well have an affect on the middle-of-the-road voters who flipped > those 41 seats in 2018, and unless there is a new layer of radicalized > youth who turn out, the result of a Sanders-led Democratic ticket could be > very dire... as could the exact opposite. > > The leadership of the Democratic Party who are certain that Sanders will > lead them to disaster are lost in the wilderness. But so are those who are > certain that Sanders would handily defeat Trump. My point is that we simply > don't know, not any more than those meteorologists who try to predict the > track of a hurricane. > > John Reimann > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:41 AM Michael Meeropol <mamee...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This whole focus on turnout in the primaries ignores one major fact --- >> MANY democrats DON'T CARE who is nominated --- they want to beat Trump and >> will come out to vote against him. How else to explain the record >> turnouts in 2018? >> >> The most important thing we can do is to counter the rising tide of >> anti-Sanders red-baiting. I was unfortunate enough to be stuck in an >> automobile dealer's waiting room while my car was serviced. As in too many >> public places, the TV was turned to Trump-TV (alias Fox) --- and the were >> going on and on about Bernie supporting Castro and Venezuela and how >> horrible those countries are --- >> >> That's Trump's playbook and it is worth fighting against --- >> >> >> <http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm> >>> <https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/mameerop%40gmail.com> >> >> > > -- > *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black > Jacobins" by C. L. R. James > Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
