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In the first place, in reply to Chris Slee's comments on how the red baiting attacks on Sanders should be countered: Sure, we can counter it all we like, but that's not the point. The point is that we socialists don't exactly have the influence that the capitalist media does and those attacks are likely to have a major effect. Mark says we shouldn't be distracted by the "bullshit coverage and the reality TV". But that too misses the point. Before we even start to think about what we should do, we need to try to figure out some idea of what may happen, what can influence things, as well as what seems to be happening. David W. says that the general election will be completely different from the primaries. In what sense does he mean that? If he's saying that a candidate Sanders in the general election will come under far fiercer attack than he has in the primaries? If so, then I agree with him (although we'll see in tonight's Democratic debate). Finally, to return to my original point: Sanders bases his strategy on the claim that he will vastly increase the turnout of young people who don't vote normally. Up until now, the evidence is that that is not the case. That doesn't mean it won't change, but we cannot assume it will. John Reimann -- *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black Jacobins" by C. L. R. James Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com