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1) Most of the discussion I have seen here, has turned around broader questions of Sanders vision regarding 'socialism'. Interesting to this group for sure, including whether he defends or not - Castro - etc. This discussion has its own merits. But how it is viewed, by an electorate - is prone to both ideology and advertising. So it is 'pliable'. 2) But no one, I believe, has even commented on the willingness with which he allows himself to be painted as unthinking and unable to substantiate public benefit funding. For example, why is he not clearer on the public health care funding issue? He simply plays into the myth that 'socialists' are free-spenders with no thought behind it. I mean is it so difficult to read (or for his myriad advisers) to read the lancet - See: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)33019-3/fulltext His response to Anderson Cooper on the 60 minutes thing is quite abysmal: (Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:27:39 -0500 From: Louis Proyect <l...@panix.com> From "Sixty Minutes" last night.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EgTXJ-49IQ ) 3) Having said all that - I do agree with Michael M's statements that the progressives and working class, have to get rid of Trump as the incumbent. Having said that - while butressing and working within whatever broad movements do come up (including the Sanders forces) - an independent broad workers party is surely needed. Not saying anything new here, I recognise that - except to point out the cack-handed responses of Sanders - who clearly has an empty rhetorical, and braggartish swagger to him. A few more soberly painted facts might help. Hari Kumar _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com