Look, everyone who is a bit familiar with health policy knows that many
diseases have a relationship with classes. Heart attacks, to name just
one example, also occur more often among the working class than the
upper strata. The same is true for overweight and related diseases.
Yes, the jump you mentioned for Sweden is slightly less (not more) than
the jump in Austria which I mentioned. As I said the jump I mentioned
was not even noticed by the public in Austria. So the jump you mentioned
is more serious than the one in Austria. But what I said and what meant
was that all this hardly represents a catastrophic pandemic!
Furthermore, what you see in the statistic on Sweden are the absolute
numbers of death. (See on this also:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/>)
This means that the mortality rate (i.e. the death per capita) is
smaller in 2020 than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Why? Because Sweden's
population has substantially grown. In 1990 it had 8.5 million people
and now it is 10.3 million.
Add to this: When you say, the mortality in the first half of 2020 has
been 10% higher than in the year before, you must not forget:
a) Mortality in 2019 was under the average of the past decade. (In 2019,
88.766 people died, in the year before: 92.185);
b) While mortality in the first half of 2020 was above the average,
mortality was below the average in Q3. (The reason most likely is that a
number of people died in Q2 who would have died in Q3 otherwise.)
c) There are well-known other years where mortality has been high in
Sweden similar to the level of spring 2020 (e.g. in 1993-94 or 2000)
According to a Swedish blogger who claims to have calculated the
mortality per capita (based on the official mortality figures and the
official population figures), Sweden in 2020 had the third-lowest
mortality rate per capita since statistics started in 1860.
(https://cornucopia.cornubot.se/2020/10/september-2020-least-deadly-month-ever.html
<https://cornucopia.cornubot.se/2020/10/september-2020-least-deadly-month-ever.html>)
Naturally, it doesn’t make sense to compare figures for today with that
of the 19^th century but it certainly makes sense to compare it with the
past three decades or so.
To avoid any misunderstanding: I think the task is not so much to start
a detailed discussion which year has been how bad and so on. And we must
take care not having a false polarisation of either “COVID-19 is a hoax”
and “this is an unprecedented pandemic”. There are shades in between.
And naturally, one needs a health program in order to minimize the
effects of this pandemic.
But what I totally reject is:
a) the claim that this is a pandemic much worse than past pandemics in
the last decades;
b) that COVID-19 could justify in any way support for the lockdown
policy, state of emergencies, curfews for the population, etc.
I repeat: can anyone of the Lockdown supporters provide figures for the
all cause death in the U.S. and Australia this year compared with the
past years?
Postscript: I just read that South Australia imposed again another hard
lockdown for 6 days because … there have been 22 new case of infections.
Isn’t this all mad?
Am 18.11.2020 um 12:23 schrieb Daniel Lindvall:
We’re looking at more than twice the size of the jump you mention
below (which, as you say, was caused by a heavy influenza!). And this
is despite large sections of the population taking unprecedented
precautions by, for instance, working from home, ordering food online
etc - that is those who can, the middle class. Without such
precautions the figure would in all likelihood have been even higher.
And this also means, as I pointed out, that figures for the working
class are much worse. The figures you refer to seem to have been
updated no later than August. If we look at the latest figures and,
importantly, take into account that Covid has affected the overall
death rate only from mid-April or so things look rather worse.
Website: http://filmint.nu/ <http://filmint.nu/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/FilmInt
<http://www.facebook.com/FilmInt>
Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/FilmInt <https://twitter.com/#!/FilmInt>
18 nov. 2020 kl. 11:04 skrev RKOB <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Certain jumps from year to year take place in all countries. In
Austria,all-causedeath jumped in 2015 by 6.2% compared with the year
before. No one drew any particular attention to this (I assume it was
caused by a heavy influenza and heat in the summer).
--
Revolutionär-Kommunistische Organisation BEFREIUNG
(Österreichische Sektion der RCIT, www.thecommunists.net)
www.rkob.net
[email protected]
Tel./SMS/WhatsApp/Telegram: +43-650-4068314
--
Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.
View/Reply Online (#3666): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/3666
Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/78274891/21656
-=-=-
POSTING RULES & NOTES
#1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.
#2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.
#3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern.
-=-=-
Group Owner: [email protected]
Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy
[[email protected]]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
