There is a world system of capitalism--including the famous "shithole countries"--with a vast, complex, inefficient, and ultimately self-destructive vital capitalist infrastructure that needs to be taken over and revolutionized. This can't occur under any form of (false) degrowth that embraces anything approaching primitivism a la Zerzan and Ted Kacsynski, nor can it survive the delusion--common to the Trump right and the vulgar Graeberite "left"--that all you have to do is like smash the "bullshit" and a just society will grow amid the ruins automatically. (The various forms of red-brown and pro-Putin "leftism" are too incoherent intellectually and too dishonest to be included in this discussion.)
If the movement to create this alternative doesn't grow in the "developed world"--even if it takes its start or part of that from the "shithole" world initiallly--it won't happen. "What-you-mean-We" can learn a lot from Cuba--starting with their model of health care and "little" things like organoponics. But the seeds have to grow here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#6474): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/6474 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/80677870/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
