I have learned a lot from the debate but I wonder if all the talk about commanding heights and which entity "owns" the means of production is leaving out the most important issue --- what is the power relationship at the POINT of production. Are workers even partially in CONTROL?
(in the old Soviet system, the workers had, in effect, life tenure so the joke --- "We pretend to work and THEY pretend to pay us" was accurate because workers controlled the pace of their work (except in the period before plan periods ended when STORMING became the norm). >From the research that Mark Selden and his fellow anthropologists have done with CHINESE workers, it appears they had about as much control as the 19th century British working class, but maybe that's inaccurate .... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#29479): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/29479 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/104961025/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
