> On Dec 24, 2024, at 11:53 AM, Charlie via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What should ILA boss Daggett and crew do to show "solidarity with future 
> generations"? John replied, "15 hours work for 40 hours pay."

That's a non-productivist, ecosocialist demand, isn't it? Tom Walker and others 
have voiced ideas such as that on marxmail. It's compelling to me because the 
volume of trade is a big part of the global warming problem starting with 
extraction, processing, manufacturing and shipping. That implies great hidden 
costs that an effective taxing regime would address to put a price on the 
environmental degradation that occurs along the supply chain. The 15-for-40, or 
whatever kind of workweek reduction, skips the government and puts the money 
into the workers' pockets.

> For dockworkers only? Who gets to be the dockworkers of the future?

Their children and everybody else. It sounds like a great job, and I expect 
they will be in demand. It would likely be emulated by workers in other 
industries. 

> And if you are in touch with workers, you know that many would work two such 
> jobs; not only for the money but because work is the center of your life.

Some will and some won't. So what?

Mark

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