On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 07:21 PM, Mark Baugher wrote: > > >> ) the attempts to maintain the classification of the underlying social >> struggle as one of self-determination must include a struggle against the >> development of independent working class program and action; a struggle >> against revolution. > > That may or may not be true, but it is not consistent with Trotsky's > theory of permanent revolution, but a lot depends on the definition of > "maintain the classification of the underlying social struggle." A > successful social struggle led by working people and working-class > organizations won't "maintain the classification," which I think is the > point of Trotsky's theory.
Exactly, but it is necessary to inject the program that will overcome the limits of self-determination. And that program has not been introduced in the discussions here. Moreover the failure to make that transition inevitably leads to the strengthening of reaction. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#34577): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/34577 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/110506717/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
