Marv,

So the honest answer is that revolutionary defeatism has contemporary evidence 
as a tendency, not as a formed strategy. It appears in ports, logistics chains, 
conscious refusal, antiwar union resolutions, and minority socialist debates. 
But it lacks the decisive ingredients: mass socialist parties, disciplined 
international coordination, soldiers’ councils, industrial leverage at scale, 
and a working class organized enough to make “the main enemy is at home” more 
than a slogan.

The best formulation is this: today revolutionary defeatism is a compass, not a 
vehicle. It points away from campism, national unity, lesser-evil imperialism, 
and “our state’s bombs are humanitarian actually” nonsense. But a compass does 
not move the army, stop the ships, or organize the factories. For that, you 
need institutions, cadres, unions willing to break the rules, and workers with 
enough collective power to impose costs. Currently, those exist only in 
fragments.

--
Tony


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