Don, You always have the chance to review the list archives if you happen to get interest on a topic you were not interested before. My point is, I'd say your "Mac OS X Server" mailing list would correspond to a hypothetical "Epiphan MCD" mail list, while the mh-users list would be more like an "Apple Users" list. I find the Epiphan MCD a topic too specific to be interesting to the general public, at least the questions related to the specific issues regarding the configuration and use of the device. If I don't own such a device, I can be interested in their characteristics and features, or any developments that can be relevant to the community in general (for instance, a new Matterhorn2GO version in the Apple Store), but why a certain user cannot log in to Matterhorn with their MCD is totally irrelevant for me, and I neither can help them.
2012/4/23 Don Rainwater <[email protected]> > I see your points. As a parallel example, I follow the Mac OS X Server > mailing list. There are many threads on that list that are completely > unrelated to my shop, but that doesn't mean that they won't be relevant > down the road. A year ago, I may not have been interested in, say, Profile > Manager, but now I have several people that want us to implement it to help > them manage their growing number of iPads. So I'm interested now, and I > may remember (or be able to search for) a thread or two on that list that > might help me implement that service. > > > > On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Rubén Pérez wrote: > > Tobias, > I agree with both your statements (btw, did you actually calculate the > percentages? :P). > Re. 1), yes, if we were to create a new list for the Epiphan MCD, then we > should create another one for any other device that should appear, if we > want to be fair. > Re. 2), I totally agree with you, but given the "special" status of the > MCD, it can be considered an exception. However, I share your opinion that > the support/support lists should be kept by the vendors, e.g. Galicaster > has its own list and it never crossed our mind to ask Opencast to create > one, nor we told the prospective adopters to direct their questions to the > Opencast list. > > Don, > I don't see which ideas can float in a thread called "Epiphan appliance - > not reporting to core" or "what's the maximum concurrent connections of MCD > for live broadcasting", to name two. These specific questions are too... > well, specific, to cause a debate which may be interesting outside of the > question at hand. Of course, any discussions that might apply to the > capturing side in general, but not to an specific implementation, should be > addressed to the official Opencast lists, but I hardly see which benefit > can get the Epiphan MCD users from members of the community who (like > myself) won't even open those threads. > > Best regards > > 2012/4/23 Don Rainwater <[email protected]> > >> In my opinion, it would be better to keep the capture agent traffic on >> the main list. Even though everyone may not be interested in hearing about >> Epiphans today, it can be good to see ideas float by from outside your >> current focus. >> >> >> On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Tobias Wunden wrote: >> >> > Hi Ruben, >> > >> > you are right that about 30% of all e-mails on the users list are about >> capture agents, of which are 70% around the Epiphan MCD. From that point of >> view it would certainly make sense to create a new list. I can see a few >> problems though with your proposal: >> > >> > 1) Opencast is not and should not be affiliated with a single vendor. >> This means, if we create a new list for the Epiphan device, we should >> create one (or be prepared to creating one) for other manufacturers as well. >> > >> > 2) It would basically turn Opencast into a support group for one or >> multiple capture devices. With Greg being the main developer on the MCD and >> a community menber at the same time it may make sense, however I almost >> feel like support (or at least a support list) should be located with the >> vendors and not with the community. >> > >> > Maybe creating a list for capture devices itself would make sense >> instead? My hope is that we'll see more capture devices appear soon, so >> bringing both the vendors and the users together on a shared list may make >> sense? >> > >> > Tobias >> > >> > On 23.04.2012, at 13:05, Rubén Pérez <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Dear list, >> >> >> >> We are seeing quite a big volume of mails related to problems or >> questions re. the Epiphan MCD capture device. That's indeed a good sign >> that a great number of adopters are getting interest in the product and >> considering it for their deployments, but while there is a good number of >> MCD users, there is also a lot of people who is not using it, and has >> little or no interest in the questions/problems with the device. >> >> >> >> Therefore, I'm #proposing a new epiphan-mcd (or similar) mail list is >> created, so that the people interested in the device can post their >> questions there, while the rest of the community don't have to filter out >> the mails regarding that. Besides, as the questions regarding the MCD are >> very specific, so only those institutions that have bought some unit(s) and >> are actually using it/them can actually provide support. In other words, >> all the MCD-related issues are specific enough and separate from the rest >> of the system to deserve a specific mail list, from my point of view. >> >> >> >> I'd like to hear your opinions, comments and/or criticism regarding >> this matter. >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Rubén >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Matterhorn mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn >> >> >> To unsubscribe please email >> [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn > > > To unsubscribe please email > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn > > > To unsubscribe please email > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ >
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