> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carsten Munk
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:59 AM
> To: Clark, Joel
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [meego-packaging] [meego-commits] 16012 accepted:
> Trunk:Testing/pulseaudio
> 
> 2011/4/11 Clark, Joel <[email protected]>:
> > PA22 is required to fix Bluetooth HFP support for IVI, which was broken and
> never fixed when MeeGo moved from PA 0.21 to PA 0.19. One could argue PA
> 0.19 should never have been allowed in Trunk.
> 
> Right, we can argue for a while about this, but let's get down to business.
> 
> The problem was that this change came out of the blue while 0.19
> downgrade was actually discussed and announced on the mailing lists in
> December so it could be done without breaking anything. I don't recall
> seeing any bug registered with Bluetooth HFP back then (but feel free
> to prove me wrong). Needless to say that no-one should enter
> regressions that breaks any platform or vertical (not us N900 guys,
> not anyone from Intel or anyone else)  - MeeGo Core has to work for
> everyone.
> 
> The excuse that people have deadlines for the IVI and Handset side to
> break Core isn't valid as well, N900 team has deadlines too. MeeGo
> Core was announced to be frozen, too, so this PA upgrade was a bit
> surprising.
> 
> We -really- need to have a release engineering team that is fully
> independent from company pressures - process should be valid for
> everyone or we'll miss release targets and vendors will be pissed at
> us for not being reliable to build products on as we can't even follow
> our own timelines and rules.
> 
> Now, on to the technical part - we want to have working cellular audio
> on N900 for 1.2 too.
> 
> Any objections for us to add the support for ALSA 'old sinks' to
> PulseAudio? Same patches were used in PA 0.9.21 for MeeGo 1.1 and
> didn't break things for any verticals, to my knowledge.
> 
NO objections. Please work on this and get it work for 0.9.22

Peter. 

> BR
> Carsten Munk
> 
> >
> > regards
> > Joel
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sami Sirkiä
> > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 9:22 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [meego-packaging] [meego-commits] 16012 accepted:
> Trunk:Testing/pulseaudio
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > It seems that the pulseaudio 0.9.22 in T:T does not provide
> > module-alsa-sink-old.so or module-alsa-source-old.so. N900
> > pa-configuration needs them. This does not show up as build failure.
> >
> > This breaks cellular audio on N900.
> > MIC refuses to create T:T images now. (so it breaks everything)
> >
> > I am not sure, but I think the only way to fix it, is to add support for
> > old-sink/-source  to the pulseaudio.
> > I don't remember how big of a task that is or if that creates other
> > problems.
> > One thing I do remember is that resource policy had issues with pa.21 -
> > this was the reason pa.19 was used in the first place. I hope someone
> > has addressed these issues - I don't know about such work.
> >
> >
> > I got the pulseaudio-modules-n900 to build, but testing them is going to
> > be hard, it not impossible with current pa.22.
> >
> http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=pulseaudio-modules-n900&p
> roject=home%3Asami.sirkia%3Abranches%3Adevel%3Amultimedia
> >
> > That's just some patches copied/modified from pa-modules-mfld to get it
> > building. No cleanup has been done.
> >
> > Do not let pa22 into trunk.
> >
> > thanks,
> > SSirkia
> >
> > On 04/11/2011 11:25 AM, Zhang, Vivian wrote:
> >> Sorry that I didn't notice the pulseaudio-modules-n900 build failure 
> >> earlier.
> The new PA is just in devel:multimedia last Friday and we should check in it
> ASAP to meet the schedule of Tablet and IVI verticals.
> >> Could you make the fixing for the build failure? It will help a lot. 
> >> Anything I
> can help, please let me know.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> vivian
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Marko Saukko [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:46 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Cc: Zhang, Vivian; [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [meego-commits] 16012 accepted: Trunk:Testing/pulseaudio
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Could someone please revert this request, because it causes
> >> pulseaudio-modules-n900 to fail.
> >>
> >> pulseaudio-modules-n900 fails in devel:multimedia already so this
> >> request should not have been even sent yet.
> >>
> >> Ps. Where was it decided that pulseaudio is going to be updated to
> >> 0.9.22? Could someone sent a link to ML where this was
> >> suggested/decided/announced with the schedule when this was going to
> >> happen, i.e., where N900 adaptation team could have read this
> information?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Marko
> >>
> >> On 04/11/2011 08:57 AM, Peter Zhu wrote:
> >>> Hi Vivian Zhang,
> >>> The following change has been accepted. See the changelog below.
> >>>
> >>> Comments:
> >>>       Thank you
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> MeeGo Release Engineering Team
> >>>
> >>> [This message was auto-generated]
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> Request #16012:
> >>>
> >>>     submit:   devel:multimedia/pulseaudio(r51)
> ->   Trunk:Testing/pulseaudio
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Message:
> >>>       Upgrade to 0.9.22; Synced with latest development tree in
> pulseaudio.org and merged necessary mfld patches (BMC #15688)
> >>>
> >>> State:   accepted     2011-04-10T22:57:28 peter
> >>> Comment: Thank you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> History: new          2011-04-10T19:09:22 vivian
> >>>
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