I have seen the additional wear of Metal Kings. Used on a set of 270mm
240K and twinspot sumitomo's you could clearly see after the first break
in run that the discs were being chewed more. This setup is on a 180B
rally car and the owner said he hasn't experienced any major brake fade
with them. He did mention having to do one stop to warm them a bit
before they felt good.

Craig.

Mick Ralph wrote:
> 
> Pete
> Thanks for that.. I have always used Metal Kings on every thing and never
> noticed much in the way of disc wear but so many people (incl Terry) have
> been telling me to try them that i think my next set will be Ultimates.
> Actually I have the 4 spots on the front and the commonwhore fronts on the
> rear (both on vented discs) and at short sprint type races and
> motorkhana/autocross i have noticed that they take too long to warm up.  Do
> u need to warm up Ultimates as much? Are they cheaper? I'm going to do the
> Qld datsun day at Lakeside shortly so I think the Metal Kings will be fine
> for that..
> cheers
> Mick
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete & Kath Liebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:32 PM
> Subject: RE: r31 rear pads
> 
> > Mick,
> >
> > I put them on because I wanted something that would bite, but the metal
> > Kings have a reputation for eating disks. (although the Metal King 2's are
> > supposed to be OK - so they say...)
> >
> > I spoke to a mate who races club cars and he told me an interesting story.
> > He ran out of (front) pads one day at the track and so was scrounging
> around
> > the pits for anything he could lay his hands on. Someone had some
> Ultimates
> > and so he whacked them in just so he could compete. He reckons they were
> > damn near as good as his proper race pads. Good enough for me.
> >
> > My only bitch about them is that they are very dirty. Although a lot of
> the
> > modern (asbestos free) pads seem to be like that...
> >
> > Pete Liebig
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, 1 January 1601 10:30
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: r31 rear pads
> >
> > Mick,
> > We use Ultimates as they don't tear the rotors apart but still have all
> the
> > nice qualities of a pad that performs well in most temperatures and don't
> > fade
> > until the rotors are glowing - they wear reasonably well too, although i
> > noticed they other day that my pads on both sides have about 20% more wear
> > on
> > the piston side so I'll have to watch that as the original pads that came
> > with
> > the callipers were worn evenly.
> >
> > terry
> >
> > > pete
> > > how do ultimates compare to metal kings?
> > > i've never used ultimates but i hear a lot of the guys on the list
> > > talking about them
> > > cheers
> > > Mick
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Pete & Kath Liebig
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:54 PM
> > >   Subject: RE: r31 rear pads
> > >
> > >
> > >   Bendix Ultimates. You need to buy them for a Commodore and then add
> > > the little dowells to stop the pistons rotating yourself though.
> > >
> > >   PL
> > >
> > >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Peters
> > >     Sent: Monday, 30 October 2000 17:22
> > >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     Subject: r31 rear pads
> > >
> > >
> > >     hi all, just wondering what pads people are using on their rear
> > > disks?
> > >     cheers
> > >     andrew
> > >
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